28-06-2003 09:43									#61
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Nope. Not all places are culturally the same as Philly.

Mmmmmm, I would've thought that you guys would partake, considering you make a great Philly-Cheese sub!

...

I think I might have an oral fixation.

	28-06-2003 09:44									#62
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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 Zylka! Haiku is 5-7-5!!! Opportune passage I see from foot to her breast Soon taste the nectar

F*ck I don't know. I made something poem like that I'll frame in a heart and give her on her b-day. What do ya think?

	28-06-2003 09:46									#63
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Albert... seducing and gently caressing beforehand to get her to open the gates of heaven; all with that subdued look of trust in her eyes - is a power struggle any man should be honored to dominate

	28-06-2003 09:47									#64
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Straight up Albert. WHY should guys always be dominant in lovemaking? Next you'll tell us you've never made love in any position but missionary.

Try it with the gal on top for a change. Like I said, there's 1,000s of ways to please a woman... but all the paths start with a simple kiss on the lips (are you LISTENING ZYLKA???)

(Sigh, age and experience before youth and enthusiasm).

	28-06-2003 09:48									#65
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A kiss? What is that... can you keep it in your pocket?

	28-06-2003 09:49									#66
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nah i think the urban male figures he should get plenty of head but has no obligation to do anything for a woman... i dont know. i guess boys here are chauvinistic...

as for me, i dont care for either. at least not until i am married.

	28-06-2003 09:50									#67
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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 Zylka! Haiku is 5-7-5!!! Opportune passage I see from foot to her breast Soon taste the nectar

NOOOOOO!!!

TAKE YOUR TIME!

What's the POINT of a 30 second orgasm? It's not impossible for a guy, it take TIME with a woman!

It's not the ARRIVING... IT'S THE JOURNEY!!!

	28-06-2003 09:54									#68
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You're quite right Cruddy, my mistake. In retrospect, I would change soon to slowly, and delete "the". I'm so emberassed!

	28-06-2003 09:55									#69
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you know what... i'm sure plenty of boys do it here but none of them would ever admit it. it's a taboo

	28-06-2003 09:55									#70
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Oh, and Albert Speer, in the movie True Romance, Samuel L. Jackson plays a black guy in the inner city (Detroit) who admits to going down on women, and his friends make fun of him for it, so I'm not entirely unfamiliar with this culture you come from. You should check it out, it's a funny movie!

	28-06-2003 09:55									#71
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quote: guys don't do that... or at least they deny it constantly. it's emasculating.

Reason 3,403,204 Albert Speer will never get a woman .

	28-06-2003 09:57									#72
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you know what... yall are starting to make me sick... everything is like the twilight zone outside of philly... guys making haikus about how great eating **** is...

	28-06-2003 10:00									#73
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quote: everything is like the twilight zone outside of philly... guys making haikus about how great eating **** is...

HAHAHAHA he has a point now...

	28-06-2003 10:01									#74
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Monolith:

yeah like i said before... poor men are more masculinist so they dont like to admit doing this stuff...

and by the way...

quote: so I'm not entirely unfamiliar with this culture you come from.

that came off very odd sounding. i know you didnt mean it how it seemed but just a suggestion, dont word things like that.

	28-06-2003 10:04									#75
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Hmmmmmm... indeed.

	28-06-2003 10:17									#76
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This puts me in mind of a conversation many years ago. I was spouting various "make the world better" drivel at a grizzled old traveller whose journey's around the world were well into double figures.

He looked me in the eye and said, "The only place you''ll find heaven on earth is between the legs of a woman".

Albert, I'm sorry if it makes you feel sick, and I for one have tried hard not to make you feel small or "less" than anyone else.

Shame on you Mono

	28-06-2003 10:22									#77
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you know what... this is somewhat eye opening though... i mean i knew people lived a whole lot different outside of the cities but i figured that such things as this were constant no matter where you go in america... but nah, apparently, i'm from almost a whole different culture (even when it comes down to things that i thought had nothing to do with culture but were human things) than most people here.

also, i guess i would do it then for my wife...

i dont know. guys here really don't care about pleasuring a woman too much. to most guys, ****ing is just sticking your thing up in a woman, busting a nut, then pulling out. i think the whole idea of really pleasuring a woman (and not getting anything in return) doesn't exist in the mind of boys here. guys are supposed to get head and ****, not do this stuff... though most guys do it anyway but it's taboo like i said.

in fact, i heard about a woman who is doing a crusade against folatio because she thinks that that action, which has lately been very popular for rappers to talk about, is making men very un-intimate and un-caring about women... i dont know. i still think it's emasculating... and i dont care to be bothered about it, though i have made fun of guys for doing it

	28-06-2003 10:32									#78
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Albert, even in cities, there is a whole host of sub-cultures...

Think of the junkies in the street - and the non-junkie homeless. 2 seperate cultures right there.

Think of the relgious churchgoers - and the Jews at the synogogue and the Muslims at the mosques. Similar, but all different.

Whole blend of people side by side - and that's just one city!

As for not getting anything in return for good lovemaking... You CANNOT believe how lucky a woman feels when she meets a man who can really make her heart sing and her soul scream...

YOU BET they are greatful, if you do it right.

	28-06-2003 10:34									#79
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"Albert, I'm sorry if it makes you feel sick, and I for one have tried hard not to make you feel small or "less" than anyone else.
Shame on you Mono"

Oh please, I hoped to make it very clear I was not dispariging any one person or any one thing. I do think though that in any good relationship, man and woman should share equal responsibilities - in decision making, child rearing, fiscal responsibility, and intimacy.

You know, I'm not as crazy as you might think, Albert. I, in the end, want similar things that you probably want. A family, a nice life, where I accomplish my big goals (for me it's writing a book), love and happiness. I think that the only major difference between us is style (and just maaaaaaaybe ideology ).

	28-06-2003 22:37									#80
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What a bunch of punks.

	28-06-2003 22:44									#81
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AS, that attitude is indeed chauvinistic. The idea that pleasuring the woman is "emasculating" is absurd. If you care about your partner you should show a keen interest in seeing to it that she enjoys the experience as much as you do, if not more. She is not just a penis recepticle.

I find it funny that you criticize people for having sex before marriage or in other fashions you find "immoral." In every sexual situation I have been in, I have always made it a point to make sure my partner was having as good a time as I was. When you are having sex with a spouse whom you love, I think it should be even more important.

	28-06-2003 23:58									#82
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The best way to get play is to give it. Take care of the girl and she will do whatever you want...

	29-06-2003 10:45									#83
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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 You're quite right Cruddy, my mistake. In retrospect, I would change soon to slowly, and delete "the". I'm so emberassed!

Well, we are talking about teenaged boys here. A note of hurried quickness in your haiku is just about right.

	29-06-2003 11:07									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov AS, that attitude is indeed chauvinistic. The idea that pleasuring the woman is "emasculating" is absurd. If you care about your partner you should show a keen interest in seeing to it that she enjoys the experience as much as you do, if not more. She is not just a penis recepticle.

Well said.

	29-06-2003 11:10									#85
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Boris and Urban Ranger:

amazing how the great liberal leftists who represent the common people are completely out of step with us...

	29-06-2003 11:12									#86
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eating **** is one of the many pleasures of making love to a woman.

	29-06-2003 11:14									#87
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not where i come from, mrt... not where i come from...

(or at least when boys do it, they are embarrased about it)

	29-06-2003 11:17									#88
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Here's a smilie for you, Albert:

	29-06-2003 11:18									#89
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albert, i worked with a bunch of lowclass cats at UPS and the more ghetto they acted the more they thought that was nasty. except for this one guy who was just the biggest player ever.

of course they were all raging mysoginists...i guess thats some kind of kind of prerequisit for being ghetto though.

	29-06-2003 11:33									#90
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don't you know by now, MRT, poor people are borderline neo-nazis...

but this thread was really shocking to me. i thought it was universally taboo in the western world.