15-06-2003 19:39									#1
	Help BeBro to choose a Notebook Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Yeah, Iīm thinking of throwing out my money for one of those fancy things

Since I never owned such a thing - any suggestions? What is the difference between those with Celeron CPUs and those with Pentiums (means, is there really such much different performance between those two types of CPUs)? And how long can those Notebooks work usually with their own power sources (I donīt even know what type of batteries they use)?

I need it mainly as portable text processor so I donīt need the most powerful thing. However, since my desktop here at home has a 1GHz Athlon, I think a new notebook would be more powerful anyway, because they seem not to sell models with less than 2GHz....

	15-06-2003 21:52									#2
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Here's the deal. Send me the money, then go buy some real notebooks (ones with real papers).

	15-06-2003 21:56									#3
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If you going to use it mainly for word-proc, I suggest you try a few out to find the most comfortable keyboard. This is usually the Achilles' Heel of most laptops - they look great but they're fiddly to use.

Alternatively, have a full size keyboard for it.

Yeah, defeats the object really?

As for CPU speed, word proc not really demanding - you're not kidding yourself about playing games on it, are you? Because a lot of people do - but then you're more concerned about what graphics chips it has, not the CPU so much.

	15-06-2003 22:29									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Here's the deal. Send me the money, then go buy some real notebooks (ones with real papers).

You nearly got me

quote: As for CPU speed, word proc not really demanding - you're not kidding yourself about playing games on it, are you? Because a lot of people do - but then you're more concerned about what graphics chips it has, not the CPU so much.

Nah, it is really not for games, I donīt have much time for them, and those I play donīt need much power anyway. I even thought of buying a used Notebook, but Iīm sure not if this is a good idea (no warranty).

	15-06-2003 22:36									#5
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I am trying to get a P1 or 486 notebook...

	15-06-2003 22:38									#6
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro Nah, it is really not for games, I donīt have much time for them, and those I play donīt need much power anyway. I even thought of buying a used Notebook, but Iīm sure not if this is a good idea (no warranty).

In that case, find the cheapest notebook possible that still has a decent keyboard. Buy that. All you need it to do is to run some version of Windows and MS Office - unless you are into *nix and StarOffice

	15-06-2003 22:38									#7
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cruddy's right about the keyboards. also, find one where the touchpad isn't too damn sensitive (actually, i hate them with such a passion that i disable them and use a mouse, when given the choice).

if you're not concerned about playing games, you can skimp on graphics and hell, even the chip... if you want wireless, try the centrino. you could conceivably get a lightweight, thin one, if you really don't need any extras...

	15-06-2003 22:48									#8
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro What is the difference between those with Celeron CPUs and those with Pentiums (means, is there really such much different performance between those two types of CPUs)?

Main difference is response time on intensive tasks (not really word Pro, but ultra complex spreadsheets are no fun on Celerons). So not much different for what you want.

quote: Originally posted by BeBro And how long can those Notebooks work usually with their own power sources (I donīt even know what type of batteries they use)?

These days they nearly always come with their own customized batteries. A MINIMUM for a modern notepad is 4 hours continuous use - best thing to do is use the mains adaptor when you can and save the batteries for when you are without mains.

As for battery type, these days it's NiMhs (Nickel Metal Hydride, successor to NiCADs or Nichel CADmium) or Lithium Ion. Latter store more charge and can be discharged/rechargd more times, so they are worth the extra cost in my opinion.

Avoid buying a 2nd hard laptop with no battery. Spares aren't always easy to come buy, and if the recharging circuit is shot it won't charge up a battery anyway (although it may still work with that mains adaptor).

Get yourself a snazzy case for it all and LOOK AFTER IT. I hate owning laptops because they "walk" so easily.

	15-06-2003 22:57									#9
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Thx, nice suggestions

	16-06-2003 00:02									#10
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hi ,

nothing in the world above the 17inch G4 powerbook from apple with superdrive

have a nice day



link > http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...1.1.1.1.0.0.1.0

	16-06-2003 00:06									#11
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I'm thinking of getting one too, sometime in the distant future, but I'd definitely go to the classifieds.

You can have a very fast notbeook, propably much more fast than you need, for just a fraction of the prrice that way.

And to check its integrity it's very easy to do with the appropriate software.

	16-06-2003 00:08									#12
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , nothing in the world above the 17inch G4 powerbook from apple with superdrive

In terms of price, true. In terms of matching with his Athlon I think you might admit BeBro is better off with a compatible laptop.

	16-06-2003 00:08									#13
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quote: Originally posted by panag nothing in the world above the 17inch G4 powerbook from apple with superdrive

Except the price....

	16-06-2003 00:11									#14
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro Except the price....

hi ,

chack with your local distributor , apple has great leasing and renting plans , with most distributors you can pay in terms in up to three years , ...

students and school people like teachers get discount's

so do gov employees and a wide range of other jobs

have a nice day

	16-06-2003 02:12									#15
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I live on a USN ship, so they only way I'll be playing games is with a notebook.

Suggestions?

	16-06-2003 02:14									#16
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Don't waste your money on the PowerBook 17". The screen is a battery killer and it's woefully underpowered, and it has **** selection for games. Not to mention its extremely excessive price.

	16-06-2003 02:15									#17
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I have a 5-subject, college rule one with a burgundy cover I'll give you if you're desperate....

-=Vel=-

	16-06-2003 02:20									#18
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Some of my favourites:

	16-06-2003 02:23									#19
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*system malfunction*

beeeeeeeeeeeeep

*azazel will be terminated*

	16-06-2003 02:27									#20
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Deploying T-800 to terminate Azazel....

	16-06-2003 07:25									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar I live on a USN ship, so they only way I'll be playing games is with a notebook. Suggestions?

Okay. You want a big fat one with an AGP slot, since notebook computers have sucky graphics that you want to replace with a good card.

You also want a fast processor, which will cause power and heat problems. You can avoid the first one by using a wall outlet. You can partially offset the second one by getting a really big one.

	16-06-2003 07:43									#22
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quote: chack with your local distributor , apple has great leasing and renting plans , with most distributors you can pay in terms in up to three years

excuse me.




so you want him to pay for something that will be obsolete when he finally pays it off? he's buying a computer, for chrissakes, not a car.

at least he'd be able to continue using the car without any major issues...

	16-06-2003 18:02									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar I live on a USN ship, so they only way I'll be playing games is with a notebook. Suggestions?

Apart from the graphics bits above (being able to change the gfx card is THE function for action games) I would recommend some good electro isolation gear for when the power spikes happen in the ships power lines. A good anti-spike/surge adaptor would be very important.

I'm not dissing US ships here Lornestar - I'm saying all mobile power units fluctuate (sunspots and thunderstorms don't help) so it would be a damn good idea to protect your laptop from a sudden sharp shock.

Oh yeah, getting a game card for one (to fit a joystick) would be a good plan - typically they've got sound as well, those little credit card style PCMCIA cards.

I daresay there's a better solution now, but if you are into games on a laptop they're pretty good (if a little untidy when in use).

I've see about fitting some foam rubber around it as well for when the ship is rolling... but I daresay you've got ideas for that anyway.

Hope you have fun.

	16-06-2003 18:16									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar I live on a USN ship, so they only way I'll be playing games is with a notebook. Suggestions?

Canīt you simply launch some Tomahawk CMs to have fun?

	16-06-2003 19:50									#25
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro Canīt you simply launch some Tomahawk CMs to have fun?

Shades of Wargame.

	16-06-2003 22:04									#26
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Mead

	17-06-2003 04:43									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Don't waste your money on the PowerBook 17". The screen is a battery killer and it's woefully underpowered, and it has **** selection for games. Not to mention its extremely excessive price.

hi ,

you dont even own one , .....

and for your info , no problems yet with a dual os installed , with games or with the battery , .....

so please , ....

have a nice MAC day

	17-06-2003 04:44									#28
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro Canīt you simply launch some Tomahawk CMs to have fun?

hi ,

, he might train with the janes games , like harpoon 4 and such , ....

have a nice day

	17-06-2003 04:46									#29
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quote: Originally posted by panag and for your info , no problems yet with a dual os installed , with games or with the battery , .....

Oh really? You can run 95% of the games out there that are Windows-only?

And your battery lasts ~8 hours on one charge?

quote: so please , ....

so please , .... is right.

	17-06-2003 04:50									#30
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"it has **** selection for games"
That doesn't stop people from buying Gamecube!!!

Oh, and if you're going to buy a 2ghz laptop to do word processing/email and **** that trivial, youre an IDIOT. You don't need more than 800 mhz for that stuff. Maybe you can get one used. Spend your money on more important things!