25-06-2003 10:07									#1
	The AI bribed my capitol city!? Remove this text

I was on the way to a spaceship landing, and the vikings landed a spy and made rome(my capitol with many wonders in it) revolt!
Fortunately, I had gold to move my palace, and a spy with gold available to take it back.
---I thought this was impossible--- this was 2.42

	25-06-2003 10:44									#2
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Were you playing a scenario of some sort? Or a game where the rules were even just a bit "personalized?"

I ask because I've seen it happen at the Emperor level on my games on occasion — Macintosh version.

Gatekeeper (and, hey, one time I had the AI bribe a city with 60 divisions of armor and howizters in it ... don't ask me where they got the money ... cheat, y'know)

	25-06-2003 12:40									#3
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geofelt ... do you have a save to post just before this happened?

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	25-06-2003 15:47									#4
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I did not think this was possible

	25-06-2003 17:17									#5
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Are you using the MAC version? If not what 'tweaks' have you got in place?

	25-06-2003 17:24									#6
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Yes, a save would be nice. This couldn't have been a normal game.

	26-06-2003 04:31									#7
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I did not think to go back to the autosave. This was a normal game, pc version, no mods, on 2.42. Earlier in the game, I double clicked on a square, and I got a message of some sort of a suystem problem and inviting me to continue or abort. I continued, thinking I could use the autosave, later if needed, but everything seemed normal. This was perhaps 20 or 30 turns earlier.

	26-06-2003 05:48									#8
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Well, I was playing a 1-city game once. It was going hard, but I had some 4 wonders in my very big and modern city,
and it was spaceship time, when a (I think it was a viking one as in your case, but I may be wrong) bribed it and destroyed my civ! I was furious.

Last edited by Heresson on 26-06-2003 at 21:34

	26-06-2003 17:48									#9
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Interesting. Never ever heard of it before this thread. Now I really want to see a save.

	27-06-2003 01:24									#10
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I think I reloaded, spot the spy and destroyed him, and continued the game. so don't count for it.

	27-06-2003 02:29									#11
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too bad you dont have the save....... i have never had my capital taken by revolution before.....

impressive if true...and something new

	27-06-2003 05:23									#12
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It happens on the Mac version now and then, too, and only on the Emperor and higher levels.

Gatekeeper

	27-06-2003 08:45									#13
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i learned something new...... seems this is habit forming the last while

	27-06-2003 17:38									#14
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I'd like to hear of a PC version example, that didn't include a system error during the session.

	27-06-2003 22:44									#15
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Could the Spy have sabotaged the Palace?

I did not think this could happen, either. Especially in OCC. We need to see a SAV.

	27-06-2003 23:00									#16
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I didn't think a palace could be sabatoged. But I have a lack of experience in these situations.

	27-06-2003 23:56									#17
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I saw a spy and a howitzer land. The howitzer fired twice, damaging my MI's, then the spy bribed the city. It turned to the vikings, not just a random palace sabotage.

	28-06-2003 02:36									#18
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Are you sure the spy did not capture the city. Sometimes it happens real quick, expecially where howi's are concerned.

	28-06-2003 04:05									#19
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Spies cannot capture cities, unless the PC version of Civ II is radically different from the Mac version. Settlers and engineers, however, *can* capture cities. Caravans/freights *cannot* capture cities.

	28-06-2003 07:52									#20
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quote: Originally posted by geofelt I saw a spy and a howitzer land. The howitzer fired twice, damaging my MI's

If it fired twice, it would have to have destroyed one of the MIs, if not both.

	28-06-2003 23:24									#21
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I had LOTS of units in the city... It was bribed for sure.

	29-06-2003 03:01									#22
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The message was "citizens of rome revolt" or something like that. I bribed the city back next turn, and saw two MI's with damage in the yellow. I think this is a bug, although my palace is not often in a place where a spy can get to it while a spaceship is in flight.

	29-06-2003 11:20									#23
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I think it's a *rare* AI cheat ability at the Emperor and above levels, personally.

	29-06-2003 15:02									#24
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Possible but I would have thought someone else would have encountered it and mentioned it. My money is on a bug until we have further information.

	29-06-2003 16:39									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper I think it's a *rare* AI cheat ability at the Emperor and above levels, personally.

My guess as well

	30-06-2003 18:07									#26
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I am surprised. Over all the years here, this is the first time that someone has mentioned this. Especially after years of OCC.

	30-06-2003 18:18									#27
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Even if the phenomenon existed I would think the cap was exempt in OCC.

	01-07-2003 10:55									#28
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Well, I've mentioned it once or twice before, rah, but I suppose everyone just thought it was a Mac-centric issue. Well, HAH! You were all wrong! NYAH-NYAH!

Gatekeeper

	01-07-2003 12:52									#29
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i do believe i remember you stating this...i chalked it up to nonsense before tho

	01-07-2003 16:31									#30
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Gatekeeper ... I don't doubt you But I wll believe you when you post a save we can all inspect

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