30-06-2003 08:51									#1
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Rules of this thread VERY IMPORTANT:
1. No editing other people's posts (this is considered cheating)
2. Only one post per player to this thread, edit your first post to put in each new move (prevent the game from getting too bulky)
3. General discussion in another thread , otherwise it will be too difficult for me to get everyone's move
2. Try and keep general conversation in the game rules thread.

This Turn's Board:
Click here for how to play

Turn 7

[ ] 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
[a] N N H _ _ _ _ _ _ _
[b] N N N H _ _ _ _ _ _
[c] N N _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
[d] _ _ _ _ _ H K K _ _
[e] _ _ _ _ H H K K _ _
[f] _ _ _ _ _ H K K _ _
[g] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
[h] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
[i] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
[j] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Production to Industry exchange rate: 5->1
Bonus Production Formations:
* *
* *
10 Pro

* _ _ _ *
_ * _ * _
_ _ * _ _
_ * _ * _
* _ _ _ *
100 Pro

* * *
* * *
25 Pro

* *
* *
* *
25 Pro

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Buy: N,c2,1
Buy: K,g6,1

Last edited by Kody on 21-07-2003 at 17:10

	30-06-2003 08:52									#2
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Current Company Statictics:
End of Turn 6.

Name: Nervco Nervestapler
Letter: N
Inital Industry: 50
Remaining Industry: 43
Production total: 31
Production accumulated: 66

Name: Kody Kites
Letter: K
Inital Industry: 25
Remaining Industry: 14
Production total: 15
Production accumulated: 27

Name: HongHu Healthy Herbs
Letter: H
Inital Industry: 68
Remaining Industry: 57
Production total: 5
Production accumulated: 20

Last edited by Kody on 10-07-2003 at 04:03

	30-06-2003 08:53									#3
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Previous Turn's Board:

quote: Turn 6 [ ] 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 [a] N N H _ _ _ _ _ _ _ [b] N N _ H _ _ _ _ _ _ [c] N N _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ [d] _ _ _ _ _ H K K _ _ [e] _ _ _ _ _ H K K _ _ [f] _ _ _ _ _ H K _ _ _ [g] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ [h] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ [i] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ [j] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Production to Industry exchange rate: 5->1 Bonus Production Formations: * * * * 10 Pro * _ _ _ * _ * _ * _ _ _ * _ _ _ * _ * _ * _ _ _ * 100 Pro * * * * * * 25 Pro * * * * * * 25 Pro ---------------------------------------------------------------- Pending Move Buy: H,e4,1 Buy: N,c1,1 Buy: K,f7,1

	30-06-2003 08:54									#4
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Message Board

Join in, I'll be willing to answer questions on the rules etc in the common room. Don't make more than one post here. For reasons stated in the rules.

Also anyone can join the game at any time.

Remember to check this thread once every day or two to see if the turn has changed. There will rarely be new posts.
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Winner will be first person to 1000 production.
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Just a reminder that next turn everyone will need to update the following lines

"Turn Number: "
"Remaining Industry:"
"Buy:"
"Production squares:"
"Production total:"
"Production accumulated:"
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Okay vev, if you refuse to do the picture of the formation at least do the size measurements mathematically correct. Maths is usually done x then y. You've written the formation down as y then x and every time I look at it I get confused wondering where you have a 3*2 formation.

HongHu, don't take too long with your move.

Last edited by Kody on 21-07-2003 at 17:15

	30-06-2003 09:39									#5
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Turn Number: 7
Name: Nervco Nervestapler
Letter: N
Inital Industry: 50
Remaining Industry: 43 (It belongs to the Hive)
Buy: HISTORY TRACE:
{(a0,1)(a1,1)(b0,1)(b1,1)(c0,1)(c1,1)(b2,1)(c2,1)}

Buy Alliance:
Production squares: 7
Production formations: [3x2] 6 things A0, 25
Production total: HISTORY TRACE:
{0,1,2,3,14,15,31,32}
Production accumulated: 98 (All belongs to the Hive)
Cheating Noticed: None
Transfer: None
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SOMEONE JUST TELL ME HOW MANY SQUARES AM I SUPPOSE TO HAVE NOW! I AM VERY VERY CONFUSED

Last edited by Vev on 12-07-2003 at 15:53

	03-07-2003 05:59									#6
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Turn Number: 7
Name: Kody Kites
Letter: K
Inital Industry: 25
Remaining Industry: 14
Buy: g6,1
Buy Alliance: None
Production squares: 6
Production formations:
**
**
**
25,d6
Production total: 31
Production accumulated: 58
Cheating Noticed: None
Transfer: None
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Okay I know it's unfair for the game master to play,
but I'll restrict myself so that I always the weakest player.
The game works better with more players.

Restricted myself because I'm the person controlling the game.
Wouldn't be fair if I actually was trying for a win.

Last edited by Kody on 21-07-2003 at 17:15

	04-07-2003 00:41									#7
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Hah now I finally made up my mind to participate and you cancelled it

OK if you insist

Turn Number: 2
Name: HongHu Healthy Herbs
Letter: H
Inital Industry: 68
Remaining Industry: 66
Buy: e6, -40 5
Buy Alliance: None
Production squares: 2
Production formations: None
Production total: 2
Production accumulated: 3
Cheating Noticed: None
Transfer: None
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Is that how you do it?
I suppose Healthy Herbs is better than Helicopter Helmets or Heartless H-bomb ...
Now hopefully I got it right this time ...
The initaial industry 25, is it how you restrict yourself to be always the "weakest player", Kody? That confident in yourself, huh?
Notice my initial industry?
So you noticed ... What can you do about it even if you wanted
Now the buy square struggle, isn't that interesting?
Alright, there you go. What a foresight I had when I bumped up my initial industry It is needed right here
I demand to give me the square I wanted! I have included cost according to the rule. cost = 5*(0-8) = -40. You could amend your rules but give me the square first since this is before you amend your rules.

Last edited by Snowflake on 07-07-2003 at 20:50

	07-07-2003 07:57									#8
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Message Board No. 2.
Kody if you don't let people make new posts the thread may never be visited by other people and you are not gonna bring any new people in the game.

Formal complaint to the Game Administer. He has an unfair advantage of being the first person of each turn. He can summarize the turn and immidiately start his play for the new turn. Who can compete with that?

	07-07-2003 08:56									#9
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HongHu,

Okay Okay, the post restrictions have been removed (crossed out).

Also, since you have 0 surrounding squares around e6, it costs 40 industry to buy the square. So you cannot buy the square with 5 industry.

And yes you are correct the game administer has an unfair advantage. That's why I halved my inital industry. If I start getting too much of an advantage later I guess I'll cripple myself in another way. I decided to play since it'll be more fun for you and vev.

Vev,

You need to update your turn too.

Kody

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Vev,

I noticed you updated your turn.
Now you need to update it again .

Kody

Last edited by Kody on 07-07-2003 at 10:56

	07-07-2003 19:45									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Kody HongHu, Also, since you have 0 surrounding squares around e6, it costs 40 industry to buy the square. So you cannot buy the square with 5 industry.

No. According to the formula the cost is: 5*(0-8) = -40
You should have take the 5 when you can

quote: And yes you are correct the game administer has an unfair advantage. That's why I halved my inital industry. If I start getting too much of an advantage later I guess I'll cripple myself in another way. I decided to play since it'll be more fun for you and vev.

I'm going to start a new thread for my next turn. This way it's already there when you update your old turns.

Edit: I changed the cost back to 5 since the rule did say minumum 5.

	07-07-2003 19:47									#11
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Turn Number: 6
Name: HongHu Healthy Herbs
Letter: H
Inital Industry: 68
Remaining Industry: 58
Buy: e4,1
Buy Alliance: None
Production squares: 6
Production formations: Not yet, but soon
Production total: 6
Production accumulated: 21
Cheating Noticed: I see that both cheating have not been punished! If the rules are not enforced I cann't promise what my next step will be!
Transfer: None
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There! My next turn. Ahead of everybody.
Getting on the defensive side.
Kody you have 20 industry left. ie. 4 rounds of buying the same square. I have 60 left. ie. 6 rounds of buying the same square. You want to fight?

Last edited by Snowflake on 09-07-2003 at 20:29

	07-07-2003 20:43									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Kody This Turn's Board: Click here for how to play Turn 3 [FONT=courier new] [ ] 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 [a] N N H _ _ _ _ _ _ _ [b] _ N H H _ _ _ _ _ _ [c] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ [d] _ _ _ _ _ _ K K _ _ [e] _ _ _ _ _ _ K _ _ _ [f] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ [g] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ [h] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ [i] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ [j] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

This needs to be changed to
Turn 3
[FONT=courier new]
[ ] 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
[a] N N H _ _ _ _ _ _ _
[b] _ N _ H _ _ _ _ _ _
[c] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
[d] _ _ _ _ _ _ K K _ _
[e] _ _ _ _ _ _ H _ _ _
[f] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
[g] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
[h] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
[i] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
[j] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _


I don't see anywhere in the rule talks about a failed buy except for: "If the industry you listed is insufficient you won’t get the square". I do have sufficient industry at this moment right?

	08-07-2003 04:40									#13
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Okay I made a mistake when doing the formula for the rules.
You still didn't list enough industry. The cost was 40 industry not 5. The idea is it gets more expensive to buy out a square where you don't have any influence.

But since it was my mistake I'll let you have it .
Next time the real rules apply.

Kody

	08-07-2003 07:58									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Kody Next time the real rules apply. Kody

Sure. Every time the rules apply. HongHu is always very good at following rules.

A reminder, in the pending move of the "this turn's board" post, you had listed "K, e6,1".

	08-07-2003 09:18									#15
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That was the game master's mistake not the player's .

Turn 5 is up too.

Kody

Last edited by Kody on 08-07-2003 at 21:05

	09-07-2003 03:00									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Kody Current Company Statictics: End of Turn 4. Name: Nervco Nervestapler Letter: N Inital Industry: 50 Remaining Industry: 45 Production total: 14 Production accumulated: 20 Name: Kody Kites Letter: K Inital Industry: 25 Remaining Industry: 20 Production total: 3 Production accumulated: 8 Name: HongHu Healthy Herbs Letter: H Inital Industry: 68 Remaining Industry: 59 Production total: 4 Production accumulated: 9

I had accumulated production of 10 as of turn 4 why you put 9 here?

	09-07-2003 09:26									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Kody Current Company Statictics: End of Turn 4. Name: Nervco Nervestapler Letter: N Inital Industry: 50 Remaining Industry: 45 Production total: 14 Production accumulated: 20 Name: Kody Kites Letter: K Inital Industry: 25 Remaining Industry: 20 Production total: 3 Production accumulated: 8 Name: HongHu Healthy Herbs Letter: H Inital Industry: 68 Remaining Industry: 59 Production total: 4 Production accumulated: 10

quote: Originally posted by Kody Turn Number: 5 Name: Kody Kites Letter: K Inital Industry: 25 Remaining Industry: 20 Buy: e6, 5 Buy Alliance: None Production squares: 4 Production formations: None Production total: 4 Production accumulated: 12 Cheating Noticed: None Transfer: None ____________________________________________ [/COLOR]

This is just a record to show that Kody is cheating! His remaining industry has remained 20 for at least two turns!

	09-07-2003 09:28									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Kody That was the game master's mistake not the player's . Kody

The game master has made two mistakes so far. How about a new rule saying that if the game master kody made three mistakes, the player kody has to distribute 5 production to each players?

	09-07-2003 09:29									#19
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Industry is subtracted after the turn.

I've spend 1 industry buying free squares for 5 times. That's 5 industry used. the 5 industry is subtracted at the end of this turn. This is to allow people to change their mind or if their buy fails.

Kody

	09-07-2003 10:44									#20
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Give me a break.
I have to edit 5 posts compared to your 1.

Turn 5 vev

Kody

	09-07-2003 19:49									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Kody Industry is subtracted after the turn. I've spend 1 industry buying free squares for 5 times. That's 5 industry used. the 5 industry is subtracted at the end of this turn. This is to allow people to change their mind or if their buy fails. Kody

NOOO! Cry for foul play!!! If you compare Vev's turn 4 you'll see that the turn 4 play is what exactly showed up in the end of turn summary. In other words, Kody's turn 5 numbers will be copied to end of turn 5 summary. That is cheating caught blood handed! Kody needs to take the penalty!

	09-07-2003 19:52									#22
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quote: Originally posted by HongHu The game master has made two mistakes so far. How about a new rule saying that if the game master kody made three mistakes, the player kody has to distribute 5 production to each players?

A third game master mistake discovered. HongHu's end of turn 4 remaining industry should be 60 rather than 59.

	09-07-2003 19:53									#23
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I see you two are quite busy and have your hands full

	09-07-2003 19:54									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Kody Give me a break. I have to edit 5 posts compared to your 1. Turn 5 vev Kody

But I have to POST 5 new post.

	09-07-2003 19:54									#25
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HongHu,
No it isn't

Vev,
Rejected you need to put in the kind.
I can't tell which kind.

Your production is totally messed up.

turn 6 up
Kody

	09-07-2003 20:02									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Kody HongHu, No it isn't

Yes, it is. Alright I will not argue with you considering you haven't slept much last night perhaps. But don't you accuse me of cheating. (What an effective way. Attack one step ahead before being attacked. )

quote: Vev, Your production is totally messed up.

But it is not to his advantage. Let him go, will you?

	09-07-2003 20:07									#27
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The company stats aren't complete copies of what we have if you noticed.
The production information gets copied. I calculate the industry deductions myself before you do.

Vev's production is about 2 turn ahead of schedule. He assumes he's getting production for turn7 in turn5.

Kody

	09-07-2003 20:07									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Vev I see you two are quite busy and have your hands full

Yipee! What a chaos. Chaos, it is desired. Out of chaos, we creat a new orderly industrial world.

	09-07-2003 20:19									#29
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I am now very very confused. I thought we were playing starting from turn 0 and my turn 5 says that I bought square c1.

Exactly how many moves are done from the start to turn 6?

	09-07-2003 20:20									#30
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In turn 0 you got 0 production.
Production is calculated before you place a square.

Turn 1 you get 1 production. Because you placed one square in turn 0.

Kody