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Sava
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GO GO GO!
Mar 2001
time: 23:29
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quote:
"A nation can survive it's fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banners openly.
But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the galleys, heard in the very hall of government itself.
For the traitor appears not a traitor...He speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.
He rots the soul of a nation...he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city...he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.
A murderer is less to be feared."
Cicero, 42BC
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another quote...
If I could talk to Bush: "you know what Bushy... you go to Baghdad, grab a loud speaker, and then say, "BRING THEM ON!". But you won't. You'll sit in some cushy chair from Crawford Texas, or NORAD, but you aren't man enough to pick up a rifle and put your ass on the line. You couldn't even serve your country in 1972-73 when you had an easy posting. You are pathetic."
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MichaeltheGreat
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Apolyton Grand Executioner
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mooning the house that Ruth built.
Oct 1999
time: 21:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Defiant
Mtg,
27 of the did already attack the M1A2 with RPG's and they all met Allah. As I said in a previous post that if one of these guys cannot convince his buddy to join the cause Bush's words will not do it. However, if Bush does get through to these nutbags and piss them off, maybe they might try that attack on the M1A2 again, remember these guys are supposed to be fanaticals.
But I agree it would be pretty damn stupid to attack us in force. |
Even fanatics adapt their tactics. Most of our transport is in Humvee and 5-tons, and they can eat those alive. Even though the number of fatalities isn't that high, RPG casualties are something you don't want to ever see, if you don't have to. A lot of guys are going home alive, but ****ed up bad.
Sinapus - try going through Basic & AIT for infantry, Airborne school, Ranger school - any of those. Flight school in the reserves is pretty cush. People pay to go to flight school, and there'd probably be good money to be made now if people could get a Thud or 104 or 102/106 and do a little joyriding in it.
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Sinapus
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Houston, Texas
Jun 1999
time: 23:29
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Originally posted by Sava
Are you from the Bizarro world? 
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That's what I like about you, Sava. Your immature antics, while annoying, just make you look more pathetic.
For starters....
Another...
Blog commentary, but pretty good, IMHO
Looks like the "fact" you're repeating over and over is in question. Which, judging from other people who keep clinging to the AWOL claim, will lead you to making more personal attacks, innuendos and other slanders on both the President and anyone who questions your viewpoints.
BTW: I don't troll. When I call someone a liar, it is because I believe he is a liar, not out of some childish attempt to get attention. But hey, the accusation irritated me enough to point that out, so you probably consider that a success, right?
You, on the other hand, appear to be quite enamoured to agitprop and flashy claims (like, say, your fancy little banners.) Something trolls like to use to get reactions from people.
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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:29
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Rather than trying to figure out what Bush was thinking when he said this, we should try to figure out what the enemy thinks of this, and then we know if it was dumb or not. If I was the enemy, I wouldn't lose my marbles, rather think 'he's finally lost his nerves and is desperate. We're doing good, so let's toast for that!'. It's not like these militants are stupid. I think they only get more encouragement, and find out they're doing the right thing and why fix something that is not broken...
So my opinion is, that this statement was very stupid. Even when he has cojones, it doesn't mean he should hang them outside his trousers to flap around. Someone should say 'bring it', but I disagree it being the chief in command. Sure, it might sound good to the public and citizens, but I don't see how this could have any positive effects on the situation.
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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:29
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And I don't want to sound like a butthole, but they're doing exactly the right thing. Or what does your news and papers say? Public opinion is changing slowly according to some polls, that Iraq is not being handled like it supposed to be handled. Now, it's not important if it is handled correctly or not. Public opinion matters. Without support, nothing will ever work. These militants knows it, and that's the whole point of guerillas and sabotaging. To make the others burn on slow fire, and to end their support so they leave.
Instead of saying 'bring them on' which is not going to happen, maybe he should just send more troops, as it is surely NOT over. Like it is not over in Afghanistan either.
But that's a no brainer, there's no magical buttons you can push.. things are going like they're going, and they could be a lot worse. He should make sure that military personel is not talking to the press though, to express their views about how necessary their work there is, that's really hurting the mission.
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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:29
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Also, it's time to finally establish that legion for foreigners. It can be arranged safely, so that they will never even enter the US grounds. Train them in Europe. Most of them would be ex-military anyway, so it's not like it should be that hard. Keep them in Europe, or if that's not possible because of Europes stuck up laws, then just fly these dudes to some other place where there are no sissies whining about it. Establish a camp totally separated from the real bases. Security risk is minimal.
Now you're going to need a lot more troops to occupy Iraq and Afghanistan. The problem is not going away, so why keep pushing this any further. Then send these guys as a speerhead to the next war.
OR better yet! Use them as operators (they should be highly trained) inside problem areas like Iraq right now. Secret troops that takes out militants as they see them, or with high intelligence information. Some of them died? Too bad. Not one of us. Looks like a merc, not one of us, crazy christian or something. They won't carry US flags on their combat gear. Something went terribly wrong? Not one of us. No official list of a guy of that name, we don't even know who this guy is. Arm them with different kind of weapons, so no one can say who they really are.
Naturally these bad asses are not independent operators, but strictly under US command. Only secret, and if someone dies, well there doesn't have to be any reports other than wiping the name of the list, since there are no mommies and daddies asking why he didn't return from the war. Perfect. Where do I sign up? 
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