05-07-2003 01:44									#1
	Diablo 2 1.10 Patch BETA Got spare money?

Yesterday, Blizzard released a beta version of the upcoming 1.10 patch for Diablo 2. It can only be played single player and LAN multiplayer, and isn't compatible with battle net. Their reasoning behind releasing a beta patch, somthing they've never done, is supposedly so people can help balance it before it's released.

Well, that seems partially true, but if you ask me it sounds more like they just don't have enough people to test the thing properly for it to be released any time this year, so they figured 'hey we'll make a beta and let them test it.'

I just want the damn thing to be released and a non battle net beta version isn't cutting it.

Also, it seems Bill Roper and a few other guys just up and quit out of nowhere. Kind of reminds me of what Brian Reynolds did. Hopefully Blizzard won't suck with Bill gone like Firaxis sucks with Brian gone.

	06-07-2003 04:17									#2
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Well Diablo 2 has been around a long time, so its not quite like leaving mid development (unless theres a D3 in production..?)

	06-07-2003 23:18									#3
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It doesn't surprise me tht they have people helping to balance the patch. If you've seen some of the things that can be done with certain weapons, your head would spin. Right now I'm using a 08 Vampire Gaze Grim Helm with simply incredible stats, later versions of the helm have been toned down significantly. Players know the game best and probably would be able to tell faster if something is unbalanced.

Blizzard is just adding another weapon in their arsenal of tools they use to make games perfect.

	07-07-2003 00:17									#4
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I was just wondering whether we'd ever see ver 1.10, because I've started playing the game again.
I hope and expect that this patch is backwards compatible with my 1.09 save games.
I also wish they'd finalize (and publicize!) all of the Horadric cube formulas. I hate experimenting with runes, jewels, and gems.

	07-07-2003 02:13									#5
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diabloii.net has all the newest cube recipies. i haven't checked today yet, but they promised to post the new runewords too.

i agree that doing this will only make the game better in a shorter amount of time and cheaply as well.

	07-07-2003 04:28									#6
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quote: Originally posted by MBD I hope and expect that this patch is backwards compatible with my 1.09 save games.

The Beta version is, so I assume the final version will be too.

	07-07-2003 04:33									#7
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I'm reinstalling the game. Do any of you people play open or is the only way I can have a reasonable expectation of a legit game with other people to play on the closed servers?

	07-07-2003 04:38									#8
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The 1.10 Beta patch is Singleplayer and LAN only, btw. It'll be put on the Realms when Blizzard are happy with it.

Yes, you should play on Closed if you want to play legit. There are still lots of cheaters there - but at least there are SOME legit players on closed.

	07-07-2003 12:52									#9
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc I'm reinstalling the game. Do any of you people play open or is the only way I can have a reasonable expectation of a legit game with other people to play on the closed servers?

Have you ever played this game? Everything is duped. EVERYTHING. The whole D2 economy is and has been based on duped items.

The 1.10 patch promises to eliminate the hacking that has ruined the game. Fat chance; however, the 1.10 ladder will create a totally dupe free economy (at least until they figure out how to dupe more) and it should stay that way long enough for me to enjoy it for a while. After all, it took D2 almost 2 years to become completely trashed with dupes, hacks, ith items, white rings, soj windforces, etc... (that bugged Sigon shield I had was badass, but I'd gladly give it up for a clean game).

I guess I would say you have a 'reasonable expectation of a legit game' on the new 1.10 ladders for at least a month, and then a good game for at least another 6. After that, who knows.

	07-07-2003 12:57									#10
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new items and runewords posted at arreats. extremely disappointing i must say.

	07-07-2003 13:18									#11
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it was a fun game for a while. runes I never really got into. I got bored of it too quick.

I did play a few months ago. that character is probably deleted already. It was a druid.

But sadly, the gameplay is just to repetitive for me. but I did get my money's worth I believe.

What I really respect about this game was the free online service. They could have went the massive onine roleplay game, but didn't

	07-07-2003 18:03									#12
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Are any of these still viable builds? If not what would you change about them?

Blood Golemancer
-Blood Golem = 4 points
-Iron Maiden = 15 points
-Bone Spirit = 20 points
-Corpse Explosion = 8-14 points (optional)
-All other skills except skeleton warrior, skeleton mage, skeleton mastery and revive at 1 point

Iron Golem Golemancer
-Amplify Damage = 6 points
-Iron Golem = 20 points
-Bone Spirit = 20 points
-Corpse Explosion = 8-14 points (optional)
-All other skills *except* skeleton warrior, skeleton mage, skeleton mastery and revive at 1 point

Fire Golem Golemancer
-Fire Golem = 20 points
-Lower Resists = 5 points
-Bone Spirit = 20 points
-Poison Nova = 20 points
-No Summon resist
-All other skills *except* skeleton warrior, skeleton mage, skeleton mastery and revive at 1 point

	07-07-2003 18:07									#13
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BTW can anyone explain wtf an Annihilus Charm is?

	07-07-2003 18:16									#14
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It's a unique small charm with very good stats (see diabloii.net).

It is in some way linked with the mysterious World Event that Blizzard has been talking about. Nobody knows how to activate the World Event yet, or what it actually is. It's supposed to be very difficult to trigger and have a cool effect (it's most likely not possible to trigger it during the Beta).

	07-07-2003 21:41									#15
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dino: not sure what version you are playing, but these builds seem a tad outdated. try the strats in the dii.net compendium. as far as i can see, they aren't bad for pvm, but you have too many stats here and there. imho, for blood and fire, you only need 1 pt. CE maxxes out at about 4-5, any more and you just increase range which isn't worth it. i don't like iron golems very much.

my necro has 4 CE, 1 in all golems, 20 spirit, some in amp, the rest in revive. the key for me is the a2 NM merc. he provides @50-80% of the offense, and i support him with curses, revives, and golems. if you pull back slightly, he follows first, so you can make it so that he never is attacked.

.10 has synergies, so now most builds are kind of moot.

to everybody else: sorry about all the abbr's.

	07-07-2003 23:37									#16
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I tried necromancer, but I just could not get into it. I don't like standing around waiting for my stupid summons to actually kill something.

	08-07-2003 00:19									#17
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quote: Originally posted by da_hal try the strats in the dii.net compendium.

That's where I got them from.

Diss: I guess I just like RTS too much because the Necro just naturally appealed to me.

	08-07-2003 01:12									#18
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quote: Fire Golem Golemancer -Fire Golem = 20 points -Lower Resists = 5 points -Bone Spirit = 20 points -Poison Nova = 20 points -No Summon resist -All other skills *except* skeleton warrior, skeleton mage, skeleton mastery and revive at 1 point

This is a good build, kind of. I made this build a while back, and gave him all the best items. Even with +11 to all skills, my necro still couldn't kill anything in Hell difficulty. He could never die either, but what fun is sitting there waiting for mana to recharge all the time. Hopefully in 1.10 the necro won't suck, cause they're tons of fun.

	10-07-2003 04:15									#19
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my last build was a zon with NM a2 merc. I had this zon since 1.0 and it was the slowest build I ever did (mainly cause I stopped whenever I didnt have next level bow to play around with)

I also enjoyed my druid+LOBD merc (a1 with +skill) and barb with uber armored a3 merc, but Sorc with a5 merc was the one who did all hte mf quests until zon could take over on that field...

	14-07-2003 00:05									#20
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dino: oh, sorry. my memory of the SC is that none of the necro builds suggested more than 5 CE.

everybody else: yeah i had tons of offense problems too until i built up the a2 merc. a5 is also sad as most revives from that area have pitifully slow offense. the only decent ones i used were the minotaurs.

after i got the a2 merc, it got a lot better, and then i could use most revives as meat shields. PI's are still a problem, as are most bosses with any kind of aura. but i make up for it with quantity.

	14-07-2003 08:59									#21
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I still play open games, look for h-tower as my account name or an amazon named Hydey, a barbarian named War4Ever or a sorceress named apolyton

I mooch most of my items off of my brother who has a program called pindlebot which goes on repetetive runs that kill this one boss in act5 who supposedly drops really good items.

IIRC, my Zon is ~lvl84, the barb is in the mid 20's and the sorc is 18.

	14-07-2003 09:04									#22
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Do you have any good Necro items?

	14-07-2003 09:45									#23
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sigh. each of these threads always seems to convince me to resinstall diablo2.

well time to get the cd's out. you know where I'll be.

	14-07-2003 15:12									#24
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Must be strong, must resist...

	14-07-2003 17:46									#25
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You know, I quit playing when I realized that you will never, ever get relevant items for your character in single player. I've played through with the necromancer, the knight, and the barbarian and I never get good items for the characters I'm playing. I was lucky and got a wand for my necromancer that gives +8 to bone spear but it tooks me hours to save up the money to buy it (can't level up or change boards or items change). Maybe that's how they get you to buy in to MP but with my dialup it's not worth it.

	14-07-2003 23:31									#26
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Do you have any good Necro items?

I've never really played as the necro, so no

	15-07-2003 00:19									#27
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quote: I was lucky and got a wand for my necromancer that gives +8 to bone spear

Are you playing a mod, cause IIRC that is not possible.

	15-07-2003 00:30									#28
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Would it be possible to have +2 Necro Skills, +3 Poison and Bone Skills, and +3 Bone Spear on the same wand? That'd be one hell of a find, but I'm not sure you can get that under normal rules either.

	15-07-2003 04:17									#29
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower I still play open games, look for h-tower as my account name or an amazon named Hydey, a barbarian named War4Ever or a sorceress named apolyton I mooch most of my items off of my brother who has a program called pindlebot which goes on repetetive runs that kill this one boss in act5 who supposedly drops really good items. IIRC, my Zon is ~lvl84, the barb is in the mid 20's and the sorc is 18.

That would be Pindleskin.

ACK!

	15-07-2003 10:25									#30
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I never get good items, but I have fun playing nevertheless.

I just started my new Amazon character. She has a crappy bow, but she's cool. Amazon's are real dependant on good items. Having a good bow is imperative.

If you want a character not dependant on items quite as much, try a sorceress. While many items are very useful for a sorceress, they can still kick some major ass without them.