07-07-2003 06:58									#1
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They are a brother/sister littermates. Very cute, very playful and scratchy. Like me a lot. Is first time I've ever had to care for another human being. Feels like a big change from the footloose naval officer.

They like jumping on the keyboard. Have to fight the boy off.

	07-07-2003 06:59									#2
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quote: Is first time I've ever had to care for another human being.

	07-07-2003 07:08									#3
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Are these from the girlfriend's mom, or another source?

	07-07-2003 07:10									#4
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quote: They like jumping on the keyboard. Have to fight the boy off.

Ha! He's an attention whore, then . 'Stop typing and play with ME'!

	07-07-2003 07:10									#5
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Are these from the girlfriend's mom, or another source?

They're from Nena's mom.

	07-07-2003 07:12									#6
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quote: Originally posted by GP They're from Nena's mom.

Weird. I thought kittens came from cats.

	07-07-2003 07:13									#7
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Congrats. What's their coloring?

Get them used to being cradled on their backs when they're young. Otherwise it's nearly impossible to give them pills when they're old. (Especially if they're not de-clawed. )

	07-07-2003 07:15									#8
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger Congrats. What's their coloring? Get them used to being cradled on their backs when they're young. Otherwise it's nearly impossible to give them pills when they're old. (Especially if they're not de-clawed. )

The boy is bigger and is black and white. The girl is white with bits of calico coloration. They do ok with the on the back thing. they boy better than the girl.

	07-07-2003 07:17									#9
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I never have minded carry for pu$$y..., uh, kats

	07-07-2003 07:18									#10
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Boy kittens tend to be attention hams more than girl kittens, but it's pretty much a 55-45 thing. If you figure out what kinds of treats the girl likes, then you can give her some when she puts up with you holding her, petting her, etc., so she's more inclined to cooperate.

	07-07-2003 07:45									#11
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Their personalities have changed a bit since moving out of that house. Less other cats around and no little kid manhandling them. The girl cat has gotten much sweeter and the boy cat has gotten less sweet.

	07-07-2003 07:53									#12
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He still has huevos?

How old is he?

	07-07-2003 08:01									#13
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They are both 13 weeks or so. Will do them both at 6 months. They are going to be apartment cats. I may even declaw them. But maybe not. My 3000 leather coash will either be destroyed in 3 months or not...

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quote: Originally posted by GP I may even declaw them.

Cruel.

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That's a real "Weekly World News" title, GP.

	07-07-2003 08:09									#16
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Get them a good scratching post (wood post with sisal rope all around) and reinforce them using that. For them to like it, they have to be able to really dig in, without the post moving on them. They do it to stretch their back muscles and destress (declawed cats can't do it, and tend to be more neurotic both from the tension and stress, and the idea that they can't swack whatever bothers them)

Just keeping claws trimmed would be good enough. I'd recommend fixing them at about five months, at the latest - they'll be big enough, but by six, they're a lot more likely to learn how the equipment works, and get into some bad habits (spraying, prowling, more dominant behavior, etc.)

	07-07-2003 08:09									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Cruel.

Well that's why I included "even". Always teased anyone who did this as a vivisectionist. But now I have cats that will be indoor types and that bachelor couch...

	07-07-2003 08:11									#18
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Leather couches aren't that great of a scratching post material if you have a real one around.

There should also be scent based products that will help discourage them from getting on it, but without you smelling it, or messing up the leather.

	07-07-2003 08:13									#19
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Get them a good scratching post (wood post with sisal rope all around) and reinforce them using that. For them to like it, they have to be able to really dig in, without the post moving on them. They do it to stretch their back muscles and destress (declawed cats can't do it, and tend to be more neurotic both from the tension and stress, and the idea that they can't swack whatever bothers them) Just keeping claws trimmed would be good enough. I'd recommend fixing them at about five months, at the latest - they'll be big enough, but by six, they're a lot more likely to learn how the equipment works, and get into some bad habits (spraying, prowling, more dominant behavior, etc.)

I got them a good post. They don't really dig into the couch as much as the upholstered furntiure. But they like to use the back of the couch as a launching pad to jump to the mantle and such. So they have to dig in to launch.

The vet said 6 months to sterilize. Maybe 5 if I push it. Guess you are saying I should push it. Don't want any mountain cousin habits. I'm in Richmond now...

	07-07-2003 08:15									#20
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Had to take the sub up the James River at high tide.

	07-07-2003 08:16									#21
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you can try double sided tape on the surfaces they like to scratch. they despise sticky stuff.
congrats on the children. if they're little and like to hide, put bells on em.

	07-07-2003 08:21									#22
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I know there hiding place. Behind the fridge. and they don't use it anymore anyway. And I just use a tease toy to get them out anyway.

I did the double sided tape for a gf who had a cat who would jump on the mantle where she had expensive vases. He was very unhappy. Lesson went away after a few months though...

	07-07-2003 08:36									#23
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they shake their little pawsies in disgust. but you have to do reinforcement therapy every so often, because they don't have long-term memory.

	07-07-2003 08:49									#24
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like men?

	07-07-2003 08:59									#25
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Cats are very human in their behaviors - like men, or like women.

Nothing like the pitter patter of little feet.

	07-07-2003 09:11									#26
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yeah...it's pretty cool. I'm not sure where things are with Nena. She's been out of the country for a while and I haven't talked to her for 3 weeks.

	07-07-2003 09:17									#27
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If her mom is giving you kittens, though, you're practically kin already...

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pics???

	07-07-2003 09:24									#29
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Post some pics!

Also, after working out, rub your sweat on their scratching post. They'll like it even more if it smells like you.

	07-07-2003 09:26									#30
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Or watch a video and put some candy on the top