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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999 time: 00:29
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tsk tsk... i guess that love for the suburbs is what has made Imran into the libertarian he is...
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David Floyd
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The bottom of a large bottle of beer
Jan 1970 time: 05:29
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The suburbs are great.
I grew up in a suburb of Dallas. It was actually a good sized city - maybe 180,000 people. But the good news was that I lived in North Irving, which was the nice part (and by nice, I mean lower crime, less trashy, higher quality stores, better people, etc.). Traffic wasn't a problem, but the city was big enough such that there was stuff to do, and in any case, the DFW metroplex was huge.
As I got older, though, the bad part of town started getting close to where I lived, and every time I go back to visit it seems worse. Too many lower class people moving into north Irving, and as a result, the upper middle class and upper class are moving further north as well - and let's face it, the nice part of town (not only in terms of houses, but just in general) is where those people live.
So that sucks.
When I moved to my first apartment in Austin, I was living actually in a major city for the first time. Parking/traffic was awful, too many lower class people, extremely trashy, and few people who fit the "stereotype" of people I would want to hang out with. I hated it.
Fortunately, I moved right outside of Austin, to the Westlake/Lakeway area. I'm in a MUCH nicer apartment, near the lake, less traffic, all in all much nicer. The area isn't fully developed, so yes, AS, I do have to go a few miles to go out to dinner, or go to the grocery store, or whatnot. But fortunately I have a car, and it's definitely worth having to drive 5-10 miles. Doesn't take that long, and when I come home, I don't have to hate the area in which I live.
So, sorry, but I'll take the suburbs ANY day over living in the city.
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David Floyd
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The bottom of a large bottle of beer
Jan 1970 time: 05:29
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Not really. Many Hollywood actors are raging liberals, while my mom (who lives in houses much smaller than they do) is a fundamentalist Christian conservative.
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Shi Huangdi
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Apr 1999 time: 00:29
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT
All that non-comformists do is conform away from the mean, you know? But they still conform.
It's kinda like a bunch of townies *****in' about frat-boys because "they're all the same." Oh, yeah? How exactly is that different from their group where all of them have the same political views, the same tastes in drugs, the same music acts, and the same torn clothes as every other member of the "townie" set?
Ahhh... college days. When you realize it's just like high school, only bigger. |
While conformity to anti-conformity may happen sometimes, it doesn't seem that big. Now, given, people at no matter what age tend to hang out with people of common interests, but so far college seems to be a place where people tend not to care as much if you differ from the group.
Anyway, I'll have to agree with AS on this one . With the exception of the nasty problem of insufficent parking, I like living in Pittsburgh better then I do living my suburban home.
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David Floyd
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The bottom of a large bottle of beer
Jan 1970 time: 05:29
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The problem is that in the city, there's more crime, more traffic, less parking, and in general more problems.
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999 time: 00:29
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Shi:
no... the question was about left-wingedness and right-wingedness not republicans or democrats... people in the cities are very conservative they just vote democrat for odd reasons... i posted a thread about this some time ago and i was told that people in the inner city, though they may be socially very much republicans, vote their wallets and hence vote democrat...
but the point is, people here are conservative but they vote democrat
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Jon Miller
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I have lived mostly in rural areas
I think that it is great if you have a car, without a car it can get a little annoying (having to bum rides and the like)
Jon Miller
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Jon Miller
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currently I live in Hyattsville MD
it is a suburb of DC, but at least in the area I am in, it is all apartments
Jon Miller
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The Templar
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People's Republic of the East Village
Oct 2001 time: 00:29
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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd
When I moved to my first apartment in Austin, I was living actually in a major city for the first time. Parking/traffic was awful, too many lower class people, extremely trashy, and few people who fit the "stereotype" of people I would want to hang out with. I hated it. |
What, did you live on East 12th st.? 
quote: Fortunately, I moved right outside of Austin, to the Westlake/Lakeway area. I'm in a MUCH nicer apartment, near the lake, less traffic, all in all much nicer. The area isn't fully developed, so yes, AS, I do have to go a few miles to go out to dinner, or go to the grocery store, or whatnot. But fortunately I have a car, and it's definitely worth having to drive 5-10 miles. Doesn't take that long, and when I come home, I don't have to hate the area in which I live. |
Westlake! 
Now I know never to take you seriously again.
The conservative Ghetto of Austin (at least when I lived there). Thank you (and your development) for ****ing up the Aquifer, Barton Springs, the natural beauty and the general environment of the hill country. Would you care to club some baby seals while you're at it?
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