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Leafs 4TW!! - CPA
Dec 2002
time: 00:29
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You've never posted an argument, you've always been the homosexual cheerleader slapping Agathon's ass in debates. |
You're pathetic Asher. Why bring me into this? You stalk me on the internet, you must be obsessed with me.
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And Agathon goes on and on about things he doesn't understand, like Fitts' Law. |
Rubbish. I understand that perfectly well. It so happens that a consequence of Fitts' Law invalidates your position. Of course you ranted and raved about this, but it's common sense. What's even funnier is that in an attempt to show me you were right you linked to a site which claimed exactly what I'd said. After that it was impossible to take you seriously.
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He even claims my complaints about OS X' GUI were "invalid", but the second Apple addresses them in OS 10.3 they're suddenly very welcome changes! |
Where did I say that? I merely pointed out to you that your complaints about selecting windows in Mac OS X are invalid. The Mac OS doesn't have fullscreen mode for Windows and so doesn't need the same kind of switch function. The new expose feature is a prettier way of doing something that you can already do in OS X using the dock.
All that's new about it is that you have an option not to select Windows per application (although you can do that) but display all open Windows. XP can't do that for more than about 3 or four windows unless you make the taskbar huge and ugly. Of course only interface curmudgeons would worry too much about this.
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Apple users like Macs because:
"They're purty"
They're what they're used to
They buy into the psychological bull that higher price = better quality |
The primary reason is that they like the Mac OS and dislike the garish, tasteless and poorly designed Windows interface.
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The crap about them being faster, or even better, are complete bull and are easily debunkable. |
As someone pointed out, they are infinitely better for running Apple software. And there can't be that much wrong with Apple software since MS keeps copying it. I see that Longhorn will contain an iphoto ripoff.
The fact is Asher, that the only easily debunkable person on this topic is you. You are really easy to beat. All that a person has to do is bide their time until you post some ridiculous over the top claim or when you link to some site that contradicts you in a misguided attempt to prove your point. Your computer knowledge counts for nil in these cases because it isn't accompanied by a sense of reasonableness. Witness the G5 debate. Most people in the press said, well these specs are perhaps doubtful but we'll have to wait and use the G5 with real apps to see how well it performs. That commonsense statement was agreed to in every article I read on the topic - in fact all reasonable people agreed, except you.
You'll notice that I never debate overly techie stuff, since one doesn't need to, to show you up for the dishonest fanatic that you are.
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If Apple users stick to the emotional side of the debate more often I'd agree with them. |
The only one that's emotional here is you. If anyone says anything you don't like you immediately go mental and start posting abusive statements. No one on Apolyton resorts to scornful remarks as quickly as you. I'm starting to think you are mentally ill, since you seem to invest so much more emotion in these issues than everyone else - and that's just crazy.
I and the others participate in these discussions for fun. Only in your case does it seem to be a fanatical religious duty.
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Yet you still participate in the threads, doubling as a cheerleader for the people making tremendously stupid arguments and someone who pops his head up and flames. |
He participates because you talk bollocks. Apple doesn't want people pirating their dock - which they paid for when they bought NeXT. The Dock is the most obvious feature of OS X and identifies that OS in the same way that the Windows logo identifies Windows. They don't want to set a precedent of tolerance so that other people can rip it off. That's all that's happened here.
And lastly, it's hard to see what reason Apple would have to listen to your complaints; a person who doesn't buy any of their products and doesn't like them. Although you'll install a rip-off freeware version of an Apple product that you slagged off at length in other threads.
Don't bother replying.
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Mr. Nice Guy
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"I'm gonna speak softly, but carry a BIG STICK!!!"
Mar 2002
time: 23:29
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Originally posted by Asher
You three would make an excellent remake of the Three Stooges.
"You need psychological help!"
"And a shrink!"
Let's face it, Apple doesn't get hurt by a small free program by an Asian student which merely emulates the appearance of the dock on PCs, while not emulating the functionality.
Anyone who is trying to rationalize their decision, or go a bit farther than that like Agathon and Cloud9 have done, are the ones that need help. 
Apple is being a bunch of tw*ts, litigious tw*ts. I'm sorry if the reality of this shatters your wet dream, but there's no reason to make asses of yourselves over it.  |
Now you're going into denial. How typical.
This is not about your attitude towards Apple, Asher. It's about your attitude towards people who disagree with your points of view. I know how you are. You wish everyone in the world were exactly like you. Well, I've got news for you: If we were all the same the world would be a very boring place. 
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And for the record, I did have a shrink for a while. He says I'm perfectly healthy, hence why I haven't seen him in ages.  |
 Haven't seen him in ages, eh? Ages can change a man. You need to see a shrink, again. 
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:29
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Originally posted by Cloud9
Now you're going into denial. How typical. |
Denial about what, sensei? 
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This is not about your attitude towards Apple, Asher. It's about your attitude towards people who disagree with your points of view. I know how you are. You wish everyone in the world were exactly like you. Well, I've got news for you: If we were all the same the world would be a very boring place. |
I've no problem with people who disagree with me but can form arguments. I really don't like people who disagree with me and use bullshit arguments and red herrings and strawmen incessently...
Example: My best friend, IRL, is a German-born guy my age who is a diehard Mac user and total leftie. He's still an awesome guy, and we get along great. The reason being is he knows how to debate. When asked why he uses Macs, he simply replies "Because I like them.". That's all he needs to say, and I understand and respect it.
It's the Mac users who start saying stuff like "Oh it's the FASTEST" and "Oh it's the BEST" that annoy me, and him. He also hates Apple's legal and marketing team, FYI.
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Haven't seen him in ages, eh? Ages can change a man. You need to see a shrink, again. |
Nah, I'm all good.
I reserve the right to make fun of people who make ridiculous arguments, I don't need to see a shrink for that.
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