10-07-2003 21:12									#61
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quote: that link shows a pennsylvanian site

Yes, but the source is a university of Michigan study.

And my apologies, I wasn't paying particularly close attention to the graphs.

	10-07-2003 21:16									#62
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quote: Anyone who thinks underage kids will not drink simply because it's against the law is living in a seriously sheltered world.

no... they'll not drink because the police will arrest them... and maybe use some of that classic "force"...

	10-07-2003 21:16									#63
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I am ok with it if it is for your own kids

doing it for other people's kids is illegal and wrong

Jon Miller

	10-07-2003 21:17									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Kirnwaffen Concerned about underage drinking is awfully generic. I would be interested to see what precisely they are concerned about, and then I'd be interested to see how the questions regarding 'measures that would help to reduce underage drinking' were put forth.

I'm very concerned about underage drinking in that I haven't done it in too long. Man, I can't wait until I get back to my uni in Pittsburgh.

	10-07-2003 21:19									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer no... they'll not drink because the police will arrest them... and maybe use some of that classic "force"...

Uhh...Yeah.

	10-07-2003 21:25									#66
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quote: no... they'll not drink because the police will arrest them... and maybe use some of that classic "force"...

and people won't do drugs... and people won't commit murder... and people won't enter the country illegally...


wait a minute... oh yeah, law isn't much of a deterence.

	10-07-2003 21:32									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer no... they'll not drink because the police will arrest them... and maybe use some of that classic "force"...

Yes lets fill our jails and courts up with teens who drink. We really don't need to concentrate on small matters such as murders, thefts and organized crime.

	10-07-2003 21:34									#68
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teen drinking can cause a lot of problems

it deffinitely doesn't need encouraged

in most circumstances community service seems to be the best responce

Jon Millre

	10-07-2003 21:34									#69
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quote: Yes lets fill our jails and courts up with teens who drink. We really don't need to concentrate on small matters such as murders, thefts and organized crime.

heh... imagine that... the justice system PRIORITIZING...

	10-07-2003 21:45									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller teen drinking can cause a lot of problems it deffinitely doesn't need encouraged in most circumstances community service seems to be the best responce Jon Millre

Drinking at any age has the potential to cause problems. They should lower the drinking age to at least 18 and deal with those that are younger in a manner like you suggested. If a person is old enough to get drafted and old enough to be considered an adult, then they should be allowed the simple pleasure of enjoying a cold beer or a bottle of Zima. (for you sissies out there)

	10-07-2003 21:50									#71
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	10-07-2003 22:07									#72
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Point of the matter is... when kids begin to drive they will eventually begin to drink (at least the stupid ones like me). I would much rather have my kids drinking where I can keep an eye on them then driving off somewhere to get drunk, and then attempting to make it home by curfew...

I use to drink at a buddies house, and his dad even would buy us beer. Only rule, we couldn't leave once we had one beer. Fine by us!

I think the drinking age should be lowered to 16 and the driving age to 18. That way the kids can build a tolerance before the start driving.

	10-07-2003 22:09									#73
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Japher...

	10-07-2003 23:09									#74
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I agree with Japher

A 16 year old with a car id far more dangerous than an 18 year old with a beer

	10-07-2003 23:16									#75
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How about a 16 year old with a car and a beer?

	11-07-2003 00:36									#76
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I see a human driving a car as a pretty scary thing anyway.