12-07-2003 13:13									#1
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Why does the self-survival mechanism not supercede any suicidal thoughts?

Why do humans seem to commit suicide so much? Despite what Fox news might say, those homicide bombers are suicide bombers. They are killing themselves. Why would someone do that?

And why is it popular to take others out with you. I hear even non-suicidal people talk about taking a whole bunch of people out with them if they went out. It seems everyone thinks it's cool to take a whole bunch of people out with you. Why would someone be so selfish to kill other people before committing suicide?

And should suicide be curbed or restricted? Check out this article on internet suicide pacts.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/intern...t.ap/index.html

People are saying these sites need to be shut down. But why? If someone wants to commit suicide, why not let them? I know that sounds insenstive. But wouldn't it be more insensitive to not abide by the suicidal person's wishes?

Now I'm not talking about the suicidal ideation. I've had that. I've thought about it, but I've never really came close to actually doing it. And I don't think I would ever have the guts to actually off myself. I would never have the courage to commit suicide. Besides, I enjoy watching the ship we call earth go down- or go to ****. I'm an evil voyeurist.

	12-07-2003 13:16									#2
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I've just always thought it ironic how busted up people are in situation where it seems like the "tragic victim" was basically ignored or mistreated during their lives. If we showed even a glimmer more of how much we supposedly care for each other, there'd be a lot less suicides.

	12-07-2003 13:23									#3
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The whole, "taking them out with me" thing is a power thing. I'm more powerful than you and there is nothing you can do about it. I get the last laugh, etc. etc

I think we've all done this at some time or another in our lives.

	12-07-2003 13:26									#4
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I may be different from most folks in that regards.

I don't hate other people. I think other people are good for the most part- even liberals. Most of my hatred is directed at myself. I would never kill anyone else before I commit suicide- not that I would commit suicide. I'm enjoying the show- even if I'm not really participating in the show as much as I would like to.

	12-07-2003 13:28									#5
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If I had the chance to kill Osama Bin Laden and it meant I had to die I'd ****ing do it.

Same goes for that other ***** Ayman Al-Zawahiri aka Dr. *****

	12-07-2003 13:30									#6
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I will say it again...

A permanent solution to a temporary problem.

While I believe in an after life... I'm in no rush to find out whether I'm right or not.

	12-07-2003 13:31									#7
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OBL is a bad guy, but I just don't think I'd want to off myself in killing/capturing him.

I'd want to survive, and cash in on the fame killing/capturing OBLwould get me. I'm sure hot women would want to sleep with me then

	12-07-2003 13:46									#8
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Good point.

Well in that case you know some of his boys would be after you.

But I'd be all, "COME GET SOME!!! YOU LIKE WHAT I DID TO YOUR PUNK ASS BOSS!!! THERE'S MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM YOU PUSSIES!!!"

Man that would be cool as hell.

	12-07-2003 15:43									#9
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I've heard many stories about why people are doing suicide, but none of them makes much sense... the neverending story: "My girl left me, I don't want to live anymore, and she shouldn't either, so I go kill her, then kill myself"

Most people who makes suicide, actually has a much better life as me (Well... it's diffecult to get a such low life, as I have), but still I have never thought about doing suicide, and never will... My life sucks, and I probably don't have much chance to get a good future, but still I'm seing the positive side of everything, that has a positive side...

	12-07-2003 16:03									#10
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In the immortal words of George Carlin :
"Some people are really f***ing stupid!"

	12-07-2003 18:27									#11
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People trying to commit suicide are not stupid - I know enough people who've attempted it and wound up in hospital. Often people who've tried it have had their lives ruined by abuse when they were younger.

People rarely 'take others down' with them. In my opinion there are two types of people who, when pushed to desperate extremes, will wither cut themselves or cut others - either metaphorically or literally.

A more topical (and common) issue is that of self-harm. A lot more people do that than you might think.

	12-07-2003 18:57									#12
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I see more logic in being a suicide bomber.

	12-07-2003 19:00									#13
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quote: A more topical (and common) issue is that of self-harm. A lot more people do that than you might think

You mean causing quick, physical pain towards yourself, or very stupid decisions made because of apathy and self-hate?

	12-07-2003 19:40									#14
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Suicide is also somewhat glamorized in literature, film and other entertainment media.

	12-07-2003 19:46									#15
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon People trying to commit suicide are not stupid - I know enough people who've attempted it and wound up in hospital. Often people who've tried it have had their lives ruined by abuse when they were younger. People rarely 'take others down' with them. In my opinion there are two types of people who, when pushed to desperate extremes, will wither cut themselves or cut others - either metaphorically or literally. A more topical (and common) issue is that of self-harm. A lot more people do that than you might think.

There are a lot of odd people about.

	12-07-2003 19:47									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident If someone wants to commit suicide, why not let them? I know that sounds insenstive. But wouldn't it be more insensitive to not abide by the suicidal person's wishes?

Because in almost every case the person is not thinking clearly. Usually they are suffering from mental illness. People don't always make the right choices for themselves. Some times they need help.

	12-07-2003 19:49									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu You mean causing quick, physical pain towards yourself, or very stupid decisions made because of apathy and self-hate?

Phyical pain. I know many people at uni and home (independantly of each other) who do it. People you know could be doing it - most people who do it don't tell many people.

	12-07-2003 19:50									#18
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life is really terrible for some people

but I agree with kidilicious, often people are not thinking clearly

Jon Miller

	12-07-2003 19:51									#19
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Why do freaks feel the need to cut themselves with a knife or scissors or whatever...pointless. A girl I used to know at uni did it, well I couldn't be bothered with her but a mate spent time with her and then ended up phoning her thinking she was a sex line on a drunken night and now they don't talk. She's also fat, how the hell do people let themselves get so huge. I don't know. Crazy..

	12-07-2003 19:57									#20
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As usual Bods shows a massice degree of compassion for his fellow man...

People can do it due to a number of reasons - displacing pain being one. When you're feeling massive degrees of emotional pain (and this is mostly down to real issues - not just because of a break up, etc) it can be a way of displacing it.

Feeling of worthlessness are also a huge factor (which can also lead to eating disorders).

	12-07-2003 20:05									#21
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I'll show compassion for someone when they show compassion for themselves.

Not everyone is a victim.

	12-07-2003 20:10									#22
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yah

but caring for others doesn't take much

Jon Miller

	12-07-2003 20:12									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's I'll show compassion for someone when they show compassion for themselves. Not everyone is a victim.

I don't even believe THAT.

	12-07-2003 20:30									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident If someone wants to commit suicide, why not let them?

In some cases they also hurt other people, when they commit suicide, even if they didn't intent to...

I've heard about one who put a gun into his mouth, and shot his brains out, during the night, at some parking space... It was a 10 year old girl who found him... splattered all over the place... a sight like that, could "hunt" her for the rest of her life, because she wasn't prepared to see what she saw...


As far as I know, he did it because his girl left him, and he did it on the parking space to her appartment...

	12-07-2003 20:35									#25
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damn...

I felt VERY shitty throughout my life, but I've never thought of simply killing myself. Hell, I even thought of becoming an evil anti-social person, but not killing myself. That's just pointless, and would cause much pain to my family.

	12-07-2003 21:26									#26
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ADG - most people who commit suicide (or attempt it) do it in a more private way.

	12-07-2003 21:36									#27
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There's always someone who will find them.

I can't believe liberals are now supporting people who commit suicide and commit self-harm.

	12-07-2003 21:37									#28
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Lemme guess - you're cure for the problem is prison?

	12-07-2003 21:43									#29
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Is attempted suicide a crime?

	12-07-2003 21:45									#30
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It's not something they arrest you for.