15-07-2003 05:31									#1
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BAe can't build carriers to budget

In short: The large carriers that would have restored Power projection to Britain ( the type of which only America and France currently have) may be shrunk. Instead of carrying 48 aircraft each, they could be reduced to carrying as little as 20 each.


While cheaper in the short run, "small" conventional carriers are inefficient. Oh well...

	15-07-2003 05:32									#2
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The Royal Navy, highspeed.

	15-07-2003 05:34									#4
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The RN surely has RNs.

	15-07-2003 05:39									#5
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This is excellent news - hopefully, the British people won't be forced to cough up billions of dollars that will be wasted on weapons the British don't need.

I mean, seriously, people - why would Great Britain need large carriers, or for that matter even a large navy?

	15-07-2003 05:40									#6
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Uh, that's their business, and if you've looked at a map lately, they're an island.

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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd I mean, seriously, people - why would Great Britain need large carriers, or for that matter even a large navy?

So that Britain can remain strong, proud, and glorious.

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* Lonestar says "DF is a heartless Libertarian. If he sees homeless mothers in the gutter, he'll pay them to make a bigger gutter"

	15-07-2003 05:42									#9
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Of course it's "their business", if you mean the business of the British people. I seriously doubt a majority of them want to waste that money on large aircraft carriers. I know, let's see what the Brits on here think - other than maybe Boddington's, they're probably mostly against it

And sure, they're on an island - in a time without any serious conventional military threat at home or abroad. Oh, yeah, and they're also allied to the nation with the most powerful/capable navy in the history of the world.

	15-07-2003 05:43									#10
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Shi,

quote: So that Britain can remain strong, proud, and glorious.

I rather suspect that's the reason, but is there a point?

Lonestar,

quote: * Lonestar says "DF is a heartless Libertarian. If he sees homeless mothers in the gutter, he'll pay them to make a bigger gutter"

Only if they want a bigger gutter

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Britain needs a large navy so she can be the eternal majesty of the seas.

	15-07-2003 05:44									#12
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DF's opinions are obviously worthless... just look at what he thinks about procrastination!

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Correction:

"DF is a heartless Libertarian. If he sees homeless mothers in the gutter, he'll pay them and their kids to make a bigger gutter"

	15-07-2003 05:46									#14
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Britain also needs a large navy so they can project power to help the USA destroy the enemies of freedom.

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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar Correction: "DF is a heartless Libertarian. If he sees homeless mothers in the gutter, he'll pay them and their kids to make a bigger gutter"

even better

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Rule Brittania, Brittania rules the waves...Britons never never never will be slaves...

	15-07-2003 05:47									#17
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quote: "DF is a heartless Libertarian. If he sees homeless mothers in the gutter, he'll pay them and their kids to make a bigger gutter"

Why would I pay them for a gutter? I have a nice apartment, why would I want a gutter?

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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd Rule Brittania, Brittania rules the waves...Britons never never never will be slaves...

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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd Why would I pay them for a gutter? I have a nice apartment, why would I want a gutter?

So you ouldn't have to look at them, they'll be in the large gutter.

	15-07-2003 05:50									#20
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quote: So you ouldn't have to look at them, they'll be in the large gutter.

Oh, that's not a problem - there are no homeless people in my area. That was part of my reason for moving out here, actually - I'm being serious.

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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd Oh, that's not a problem - there are no homeless people in my area. That was part of my reason for moving out here, actually - I'm being serious.

Homeless people can be a real problem in Pittsburgh, at least the ones that panhandle are. They try to hustle college students who have little money to begin with, making up false stories to try to trick us, and can be really nasty if you refuse to give them money. One time a panhandler, after I refused to give him money after he had lied to me about the cause of needing it(and I knew he was lying, long story), started cussing me out and spat in my face. They really do make a neighberhood agressive.

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Exactly. I hate it that they hang around the UT campus, although I also get my kicks by totally ignoring them when they try to get money from me. Yeah, I'm gonna give them money so they can go buy cigarettes and cheap liquor

	15-07-2003 05:58									#23
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My Dad would spend his evenings shooting at Homeless people with his BB gun when we lived on the Presidio in SF (he Knew Homeless guys came up to our porch to sleep on our bench, so he'd be in a tree with his Gilly suit on.)

	15-07-2003 05:59									#24
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Hehe, that's awesome.

	15-07-2003 06:00									#25
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This was a weird threadjack...

	15-07-2003 06:01									#26
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Lonestar started it. My original post was on topic and serious.

	15-07-2003 06:01									#27
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I wasn't accusing anyone... touchy touchy

	15-07-2003 06:04									#28
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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd Lonestar started it. My original post was on topic and serious.

It was on topic but it wasn't serious.

	15-07-2003 06:12									#29
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Sure it was. What would be uproarously funny would be someone claiming that Britain DOES need those carriers.

	15-07-2003 06:25									#30
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Britain does need those carriers. What are they going to do if Bush gets drunk and orders an attack on Britain?