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Eli
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Jul 2000
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Me!
But I dont remember a thing since we left when I was 6 years old.
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Richelieu
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Gatineau
Dec 2001
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I live in Canuckistan... does that count ?
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VetLegion
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Arhem, glorious mods, can you delete the spam by Americans who can't even hide their jealousy they were born on the wrong side of the Curtain? 
This is a serous thread. Thanks.
It is not my fault you people were born on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain 
Comrade Eli, how come you don't remember a thing? Were the Gulag facilities in your kindergarten that bad? 
Anyway, my replies:
"Which country did you live in?"
Yugoslavia. More specificaly Croatia, Zagreb.
"In what time period? And what period of your life?"
1981-1991. Since I was 0 till I was 10 or so.
"Do you look back with good or bad memories?"
Good, great 
But I was a kid.
"What was best thing about communism in your area?"
Housing I think. Most people had their housing provided by the state. There were good buildings and bad buildings ofcourse, but most of those in my neighbourhood were built around 1980 so they are pretty high quality. Paying for utilities is screwed though. We have central heating which we pay for based on the square area of appartment, not consumption. The same with hot and cold water.
"What was the worst?"
Hm. As far as I am concerned, nothing. We kids had it cool. Supposedly, you could have problems if you attended a church.
Also, we were introduced into 'Tito's pioneers' organization when we were kids. It didn't mean anything really, but I did swear to defend brotherhood and unity of Yugoslavia and communism at the age of 8 
"Would you prefer to live in such a system now?"
No, not really. It wasn't entirely bad, but it was not good either. There were fewer buissiness opportunities, there was less democracy. You could really get hurt for being a nationalist, or even for criticising members of the communist party harshly (some criticism was allowed). On the other hand, crime and drug consumption increased with democracy, so it was not all profit that way either.
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VJ
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Dec 2001
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The nation where I have lived all my life was called Soviet Finland (SF) until it backstabbed the True Motherland and joined the Satan's Final Empire in 1995. Does that count?
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connorkimbro
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Seoul Korea
Jan 1970
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ya, i'm in the military at the moment, and in some ways, it's a very communist type system.
here's ONE example.
i and my friend are both the same rank, and have the same time in service. we have the same job. we work at the same place, we live in the same building, eat at the same chow hall. she gets paid about 1000$ MORE a month, because she has kids back in the states.
Do i think that's unfair? not really. she needs the money for her kids. If she didn't get that money, i'm sure she wouldn't have joined. It's a contractual system, people volunteer to be a part of it, and nobody's forced to stay in past the amount of time they originally signed up for. But that is one of the FEW differences.
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MACEDONIA - It's the name of the sovereign country to the north of Greece
Apr 2000
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Originally posted by VetLegion
Comrade Azazel, what about 'skiing in the mountains in the winter, sea in the summer' for the middle class. Were you able to afford those? Here, everyone could afford to spend some time at sea, and quite some could go skiing too. And the working hours were short and holidays many  |
Indeed!  That was indeed great. It was like a first world country, but a bit more humble. And almost everyone could afford it.
But I am baffled but what you've said.
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No, not really. It wasn't entirely bad, but it was not good either. There were fewer buissiness opportunities, there was less democracy. You could really get hurt for being a nationalist, or even for criticising members of the communist party harshly (some criticism was allowed). On the other hand, crime and drug consumption increased with democracy, so it was not all profit that way either. |
Why is bad for nationalists to be hurt. You know very well what happened to your great country when it was swept by nationalism. I remember being in Yugo in the 80s on vacation. what a sweet country. Now you had war, genocide. The living standard for most of you fell. Social decay advanced, as you said. and what did you get for this? "Increased bussiness opportunity"? That is the possibility for a limited few to get rich? 
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VetLegion
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Azazel,
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Why is bad for nationalists to be hurt. |
For the most of time (peacetime), only extremist nationalism is dangerous. If people are allowed to freely follow their customs there is less chance of extremists appearing, and when they do they will be marginalised. Many of the bad things that happened can be attributed to reppressed nationalism(s). There is lots of other stuff there too (economic issues..), but I won't clutter the thread with it.
Communists treated n. pretty harshly: you could be jailed for singing inapropriate songs on a wedding. Their way was maybe the only way to keep the country together after a bloody world war, but it also doomed it to collapse as soon as CP's grip on power loosened.
You just can not base a sucessfull society on oppression of someone's national identity. People can choose to forget it, like most do when they say move to USA, but if you officialy enforce it you will get quite the opposite.
By the way, the dream of unitarists that different nationalities will mix into one Yugoslavian nation failed in general, as after 50 years the percentage of people declaring themselves as Yugoslavians was still negligble. Number of mixed marriages was somewhat bigger, but still not really significant. Goes without saying, those people really saw the bad side of the war (parted families, etc).
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Sirotnikov
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<--- Yes, It's a "kitty" in a boot.
Feb 2000
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lived in the SU, in Georgia, in the port town of Batumi, till the age of 5 1/2. |
LOL ROFLMAO
Privet Gruzin 
Ti ne vigladish gruzinom i tak ne razgovarivayech. Ya gadayu tvoy roditeli tuda ubezhaly iz drugikh chastei strani.
As for myself, I lived in the USSR until the age of 6. (from 1984 till 1990)
I will answer both according to my knowledge and my own personal experiences.
The best thing was that most people had it relatively ok. Though the life standard was much lower than the west, it was much better than being dirt poor in the west, and there weren't much differences between rich and poor in the normal sense.
Basically, those who were close to power (be it in worker's unions, party, local political structure) had it much better. But that isn't different in the west. Only that in the west it's part of the system and accounted for, and in the USSR it was against it's own ideals and quite corrupt. Since it was working "against" the system., it made the system work worse.
There were also frequen shortages on things such as dairy produce, meats and such. No good clothes or usual household items. Almost no home technology - no good soap, no good washing machines, no good ovens, no good refrigerators.
My own experience though, was bad and boring TV programming. No good cartoons / films / TV shows. The TV programming for each day was quite dull and erratical. Way too much direct covers of politics.
I did like the 'myth' created around WWII as it was called "the great fatherland war" and I liked the myths created around the communist history. Lead to my interest in history and psychological effects that lead the masses.
I like capitalism better
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