20-07-2003 00:06									#1
	Will Unix-based operating systems overtake the M$ Windows monopoly someday? Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

This includes operating systems such as Linux, Mac OS X, Solaris, BSD and BeOS.

	20-07-2003 00:10									#2
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Asher / Monolith et al. in 5...4...3...

	20-07-2003 00:11									#3
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no

	20-07-2003 00:11									#4
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MS will dominate forever and ever and ever...

And you forgot "Banana," you dirty heathen

	20-07-2003 00:13									#5
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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs MS will dominate forever and ever and ever... And you forgot "Banana," you dirty heathen

O, sorry. I haven't posted a poll here in quite awhile, so, I forgot. Oops.

	20-07-2003 01:21									#7
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Easy

	20-07-2003 01:37									#8
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No they won't. Regular computer users like easy graphical user interfaces too much.

Also, MS pushes it's product so hard, they will dominate for a long time to come.

	20-07-2003 01:38									#9
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Besides, most people think that the Windows IS the computer and all there is to it. It's a horrible misconception, but that's how it is.

	20-07-2003 01:45									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Besides, most people think that the Windows IS the computer and all there is to it. It's a horrible misconception, but that's how it is.

Yep. Theres the computer, and then theres a mac

	20-07-2003 03:43									#11
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	20-07-2003 04:01									#12
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How can you expect an OS that was built by geeks and geared towards geeks to ever catch on mainstream?

Answer: it won't

	20-07-2003 04:06									#13
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All new operating systems are for geeks. When MS-DOS first came out, it was definitely for geeks. It'll catch on. You just watch!

	20-07-2003 04:06									#14
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Well, it won't EXACTLY die... considering NT and XP and all of the future releases of Windows are based on it

	20-07-2003 04:08									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Cloud9 All new operating systems are for geeks. When MS-DOS first came out, it was definitely for geeks. It'll catch on. You just watch!

"Please enter primary kernel here. If you have not compiled a kernel, please contact your manufacturer" versus "Click here for Yahoo! Mail! Click here for Morrowind! Click here for...."

I wonder which of those two most people will go for

	20-07-2003 04:14									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Cloud9 All new operating systems are for geeks. When MS-DOS first came out, it was definitely for geeks. It'll catch on. You just watch!

no it wasn't

it was built for IBM which was selling a line of CONSUMER computers called the IBM PC and the IBM PC jr.

	20-07-2003 04:17									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 "Please enter primary kernel here. If you have not compiled a kernel, please contact your manufacturer" versus "Click here for Yahoo! Mail! Click here for Morrowind! Click here for...." I wonder which of those two most people will go for

Unix-based OSes are becoming more and more mainstream and more and more easier to use everyday (just like Windows, only at a faster rate).

	20-07-2003 04:18									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker no it wasn't it was built for IBM which was selling a line of CONSUMER computers called the IBM PC and the IBM PC jr.

Back then, computers themselves were not even mainstream. Hardly anyone owned one. At least until Windows 3.1 was released.

	20-07-2003 04:18									#19
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no they're not

I have yet to see any improvements since Gnome and KDE were released

The only one that actually counts is MacOSX

(which was built by a for-profit company for consumers by the way)

	20-07-2003 04:23									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker no they're not I have yet to see any improvements since Gnome and KDE were released The only one that actually counts is MacOSX (which was built by a for-profit company for consumers by the way)

Try Lindows (KDE). Try Ximian Desktop (Gnome). You might change your mind.

	20-07-2003 04:24									#21
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Tried 'em both

Different flavors of mediocrity

	20-07-2003 04:25									#22
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How come the Lindows site tries to install Gator on my computer? Are they that desparate?!

	20-07-2003 04:28									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Tried 'em both Different flavors of mediocrity

Compare the improvements in Linux and Windows for the last 5 years and you'll see what I mean. Or are you just too stuck up to admit it, just so you can support your point of view?

	20-07-2003 04:30									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker How come the Lindows site tries to install Gator on my computer? Are they that desparate?!

Excuses. Excuses.

Don't give me that. Lots of websites do that.

	20-07-2003 04:31									#25
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If I'm comparing Windows 98 to Windows XP the difference is huge, and a vast improvement.

The X Server is a joke and compared to XP is unstable and very slow. I don't ever use the GUI on Linux because it's a complete waste of time.

Someone needs to rewrite X from scratch.

	20-07-2003 04:33									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker If I'm comparing Windows 98 to Windows XP the difference is huge, and a vast improvement. The X Server is a joke and compared to XP is unstable and very slow. I don't ever use the GUI on Linux because it's a complete waste of time. Someone needs to rewrite X from scratch.

See. I knew you were stuck up.

	20-07-2003 04:40									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Cloud9 Excuses. Excuses. Don't give me that. Lots of websites do that.

"Lots of websites do that."



Only the BAD sites do that. How can I expect to take something seriously when they are trying to install spyware on my pc?

Tell me, do any of these do it?

1) www.ibm.com
2) www.microsoft.com
3) www.oracle.com
4) www.freebsd.org
5) www.cnn.com

	20-07-2003 04:41									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Cloud9 See. I knew you were stuck up.

Do you even know how X works?

	20-07-2003 04:41									#29
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I see Windows and Unix as aimed at different markets - the Microsoft vision is every desktop/personal PC running Windows, and the Unix vision is portable code.

Neither of these visions bears too much resemblence to reality, although the Windows one is much closer to it. And I'm no great fan of MS.

I doubt any version of Unix in their present forms will top MS - but I've been very wrong about how computers will evolve, so I'm not going to go further than the last point;

OS's in 20 years or so will bear little if any resemblence to what is currently commercially available.

	20-07-2003 04:41									#30
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quote: "Lots of websites do that." Only the BAD sites do that. How can I expect to take something seriously when they are trying to install spyware on my pc? Tell me, do any of these do it? 1) www.ibm.com 2) www.microsoft.com 3) www.oracle.com 4) www.freebsd.org 5) www.cnn.com

Microsoft does. It's called Windows