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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:29
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Originally posted by Fez
Serb, if your countrys rifle designs are so good why is the war in Chechyna turning to ****? Oh wait.. it already reached that years ago... the Russian army is fighting a stalemate... recruiting some of the poorest fit men for the job. So does weaponry really worth a damn if the entire military it is serving does not know how to fight in the least? |
Fighting a stalemate?
Keep dreaming. There is no fighting. Only terrorists attacks. Regular army is withdrawing from Chechnya, because it's acomplished its mission (destruction of your beloved freedom fighter, terrorists, bandits, rapers, murders and other motherf*ckers as military force) YEARS ago. Currently there are only about 20 000 troops and they will be withdrawn soon too.
Fighting a stalemate exist only in your sick mind.
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Serb
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:29
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Originally posted by Fez
What made me laugh a lot was the fact that Russia´s entire military budget was $11 billion.. the US spends $11 billion sometimes on a single project... |
Spainsh military budget would make you laugh much longer.
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Serb
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:29
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Originally posted by Fez
Funny how the ass ignores the source I post on the collapse of the Russian military.
The budget for the Russian military was $11 billion dollars.. I don't think you would even want to guess how much it was for the United States.. somewhere in the range of $290 billion. |
Why should I comment an article which contains such bulsh!t as:
"The Iraqi army closely copied the Soviet organization and tactics and was equipped with mostly Soviet-built tanks, aircraft and missiles. "
If you consider Iraqis army (equiped with 30 years old, export (weakened) designs) as twin sister of Russian army, you're hopeless.
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el freako
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Bristol, European Union
Oct 1999
time: 05:29
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Originally posted by Fez
Your assessment of economics is inaccurate at best.
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Ah I see you are again using the Fezzing (TM) method of disproving someone - this involves the omnescient Fez stating that I am wrong - who am I to argue with such brilliant logic, I mean why should Fez demean himself by actually offering some facts to prove his case, when he is all-knowing!
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Originally posted by Fez
I don't live in the fantasy world, rather you and Serb are in that.
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You seem to belive that anyone who doesn't wholeheartedly agree with your strange worldview must be evil somehow, for example:
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Originally posted by Fez
Serb is a ****ing stalinist...
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I am certain that Serb would be horrified by a return to stalinist principles. Just because he favours more left-wing solutions to problems than you you liken him to a gruesome tyrant who butchered millions of his own people.
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Originally posted by Fez
And you my friend, are a jerk. Plain and simple, all you have done in your post is insulted me. I might be younger than you, but that is by no reason to go after me. I will admit I did do that to several posters here, but they are smart people too... false simplicities? My views are not simple yet extremely complex.
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"Go after you" 
I show you. using statistics and economic analysis, how your reliance on processed data can lead to incorrect assumptions - you ignore my points and then have the astounding gall to say that you "disproved" my argument - tell me why I shouldn't think you are someone who prefers their own fantasies to relaity?
And just take a second to read what you wrote then - you claim that I had no reason to go after you, but then you admit that you have done the same yourself.
Why should you be excepted from behaviour that you want others to adhere to? You're nobody special, despite your delusions of omneseince.
Or are you saying that you only do it to 'smart' people - well then surely I have paid you an obscure compliment by doing it to you?
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Originally posted by Fez
Assumptions against reality?
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Looks like some remedial education is in order...
For any hypothesis to be given credence it need to be checked against reality - this is a basic scientific prinicple.
Only when it does can it be termed anything more than 'wishfull thinking'
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Originally posted by Fez
Also, I want to bring up the amount of your military again.. how can you maintain.. what is it.. 1.2 million enlisted in total with only $11 billion? Spain´s military is like 150,000 in total and its budget is $9 billion.
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Because you are converting the amounts using exchange rates - the rouble is massively undervalued.
I don't have up-to-date data, but in 1999 the rouble was undervalued by 68% relative to it's PPP.
As a large proportion of military costs is the pay to servicemen then differences in the relative price level makes a big difference. (in this case making the spending per serviceman in russia go from 15% of Spain's level using exchange rates to 48% using PPPs).
Last edited by el freako on 24-07-2003 at 10:13
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st_swithin
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10069
Nov 2002
time: 05:29
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If Britany is yours now, please, for the love of God, KEEP HER OVER THERE!!
WE DON'T WANT HER BACK UNTIL SHE LEARNS HOW TO SING!!!
Anyone notice how frequently marsblackmon likes to say 'I hope to God...'?
Must be a religious sort of fellow.
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Serb
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:29
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Originally posted by Fez
Actually the Iraqi Army was being maintained with Russia´s help for years... even after the gulf war.
Also, I want to bring up the amount of your military again.. how can you maintain.. what is it.. 1.2 million enlisted in total with only $11 billion? Spain´s military is like 150,000 in total and its budget is $9 billion. |
You just do not understand that 11 billins $ in Russia, its not the same as 11 billions $$$ in USA. Everything is much cheaper here- resources, electricity, labour, everything.
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Serb
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:29
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Originally posted by Fez
Actually according to the article, both amounts are in dollar amounts.
If you would read the article, $11 billion isn't enough to feed or even fully cloth 1.2 million troops.
Sorry man. But your military is crap. |
As I said, you don't realize that Russia it is not one of the American states. We don't pay dollars to workers, as well as we don't pay dollars for electricity and resources.
You must know at least a bit about economy to understand this, but since you're such a dumba$$, it's an impossible task for you.
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24-07-2003 09:45
tho the russian gun is better than the M-16 a2 overall
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