25-07-2003 18:34									#61
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sloww, no offense, but i think you also sleep safe, warm and cuddly in your bed with no fear...

unless texas is some terrorist haven...

	25-07-2003 18:35									#62
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This is a wierd thread. I never really thought that people would get so tied up in knots over the death of the Hussein brothers.

	25-07-2003 18:37									#63
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And it was said "it doesn't even look like them"?

Well, noshit.

Sons' Bodies May Have 20 Bullet Wounds
27 minutes ago

By MATT MOORE, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The U.S. military displayed the bodies of Saddam's sons Odai and Qusai to journalists Friday, and pathologists said each body contained more than 20 bullet wounds.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...id=540&ncid=716


Adios, mother****ers.

	25-07-2003 18:38									#65
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Exactly Q. But I'm not the one lamenting the sad loss and proof of same over the Butchers of Baghdad.

	25-07-2003 18:39									#66
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You said they were 'evil', how so? Any links, proves from their 'evil' deeds?

	25-07-2003 18:40									#67
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Releasing the photos was necessary to help prove to the Iraqi people that they are dead. It's not as if the US is releasing photos of random Iraqi combatants. If you can't understand this and the key difference between the two situations... you are a moron.

(I'm not directing this post at anyone... I'm saying in general )

	25-07-2003 18:41									#68
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quote: You said they were 'evil', how so? Any links, proves from their 'evil' deeds?

You are starting to sound like Speer... "prove the Holocaust happened!"

	25-07-2003 18:42									#69
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Tuomerehu, since you evidently live with the covers pulled over your head, go read what happened after Gulf War 1's cease-fire to the Iraqi people.

	25-07-2003 18:43									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu You said they were 'evil', how so? Any links, proves from their 'evil' deeds?

quote: His avocational sadism and sexual deviance are the stuff of Iraqi legend. "In his eyes," recalls a former colleague of Uday's who agreed to speak to TIME, "you see someone who can appreciate you one minute and kill you the next. It is not natural." In Saddam's Iraq, Uday was in charge of the nation's Olympic committee; editor of a leading newspaper, Babel; and head of Youth TV, the country's most popular channel. He also ran a dreaded security force called Saddam Fedayeen, which lately occupied itself with beheading "dissidents" and alleged prostitutes. According to exiled colleagues--including his former press secretary Abbas al Janabi--he routinely abducted and raped women who caught his fancy. But his depravity wasn't confined to sexual matters. Witnesses and survivors say he tortured athletes--and others who incurred his fickle wrath--in special rooms devoted to the purpose, even videotaping some sessions. Al Janabi says he was held and beaten nine times during his 13-year tenure with Uday.

http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cach...&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

	25-07-2003 18:43									#71
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some sources i've read seem to give the impression that many iraqis would have liked to have seen the brothers put on trial.

it's all well and good, and a noble idea, but i really don't think they'd've allowed themselves to be captured alive. they seem to be the nasty kind of fcuks who'd cut off their nose to spite their face.

	25-07-2003 18:43									#72
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quote: Tuomerehu, since you evidently live with the covers pulled over your head, go read what happened after Gulf War 1's cease-fire to the Iraqi people.

Qusay led the suppression of the Shi'ite uprising... after the US left them high and dry.

	25-07-2003 18:45									#73
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At the U.N. insistence, Sava.
Which is why we're telling France, Germany, etc. to piss up a wet rope this time around.

	25-07-2003 18:49									#74
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quote: At the U.N. insistence, Sava.

Yeah, because the US values the UN's opinion

Face it SLowwy, GulfWar I was about reinstalling the Kuwaiti dictators... not removing Saddam. I'm sure Bush thought he could get Saddam back under control like he was all those years during the Reagan admin when we were giving him billions in weapons and aid.

	25-07-2003 18:52									#75
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Mike, you can go with Tuomerehu.

What did I do wrong ?! I never said it was a bad thing that they were dead!

I just said that everyone used stuff like that as propaganda and it's normal. Read what people say not what you think they meant.

	25-07-2003 18:53									#76
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"What did I do wrong".


Believe it or not Sava, the U.S. used to really care what the U.N. thought.

	25-07-2003 18:53									#77
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Yes, they did some nasty stuff, indeed they did. They said the other one wasn't so bad though, but the other one was a maniac. But what do you expect? I'd have them eliminated (if I was in charge) even if they weren't public figures or proved to be very evil. If they were loyal to his old man, like most sons are, then *pop pop pop pop*. Why? Because they are still Hussein, they are going to continue the legacy, and if not physically, then symbolically.

This was one of the fears of just assissinating Saddam. His work would be continued by his sons. Of course they are not a match to Saddam, but they are good snacks along the way to taking the beast himself out.

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quote: I just said that everyone used stuff like that as propaganda and it's normal. Read what people say not what you think they meant.

Good point. This is propaganda for Bushies... but it's still okay to celebrate the passing of these evil ****ers! Take it from a Bush-hater like me

	25-07-2003 18:54									#79
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Exactly.

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I should know not to take Sloww seriously by now.

	25-07-2003 18:55									#81
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I don't have a problem with the 'Convince the Iraqis the monsters are dead' argument, but what excuse do some western papers have for showing the dead faces of the brothers emblazoned on their front page?

	25-07-2003 18:56									#82
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH I should know not to take Sloww seriously by now.

Cool. Another education complete.

	25-07-2003 18:56									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Sava Take it from a Bush-hater like me

I thought you liked bush. When did you start becoming more interested in Cheneys?

	25-07-2003 18:57									#84
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quote: Believe it or not Sava, the U.S. used to really care what the U.N. thought.

Each administration is different... IMO, I think part of the reason Bush I didn't go into Baghdad and take Saddam out in 1991-1992 is because he would have had to justify the cost in dollars and human lives in doing so. And the connections to Saddam and the US giving him weapons and aid would have come out and been terribly damaging to Bush and Reagan, and many of the people who were in the Bush admin were in that Reagan admin in some form or another. It was in their interests to let Saddam be and take him out later, after enough time had passed and enough documents were destroyed.

	25-07-2003 18:57									#85
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i do have to say, those pictures are rather gruesome... i was surprised many newspapers and news outlets didn't seem to preface the images with some sort of warning...

	25-07-2003 18:57									#86
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quote: Originally posted by problem_child I don't have a problem with the 'Convince the Iraqis the monsters are dead' argument, but what excuse do some western papers have for showing the dead faces of the brothers emblazoned on their front page?

Make money selling papers. Encourage jingoistic celebrations.

	25-07-2003 18:58									#87
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quote: I thought you liked bush. When did you start becoming more interested in Cheneys?

touche...

actually it could mean I prefer trimmed/shaved!

	25-07-2003 19:01									#88
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In your opinion? I was alive and up walking around, and you were sucking your mama's ***, Sava.

Your opinion doesn't count for jack.

	25-07-2003 19:02									#89
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least he's not an old fogey with addled brains.

	25-07-2003 19:04									#90
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HEY!