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notyoueither is offline notyoueither
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Turn 101, 550BC Full PM-box? Change here!

To be edited by the Consuls and Ministers.

Status:
- Researching Republic at 100% (1 turns)
- Luxury Slider at 0%
- 47 gold cash, -5 gpt


Urgent questions & tasks
FAM: NAP with CFC being reworked to include agreement regarding GCA, CDG cities, and tech.
FAM: CFC negotiation re Construction

Unit movement & actions
To be added by MoW

Economy
To be added by MoI

WF:
To be added by MoI

Workers:
To be added by MoI


Diplomacy:
CDG: NAP/Border treaty (to turn 109).
GCA: NAP in effect (to Turn 130).
CFC: NAP expired. New NAP proposed by CFC thru turn 117
also, see this thread


Comment, please, many "plans" are just suggestions or ideas, not decisions already made.

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Discussion and basic reporting to follow. See the topped thread for comprehensive results

rush is offline rush
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

if the Barbarian surge that comes with Medieval Age is over, let's move the troops in the wilderness back to our Cities.

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We have seen no evidence of that yet, rush.

Reports and guesses, yes. Evidence with our own eyes? No. We will leave them out for a bit yet.

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Got spare money?

Tried to post this earlier, but Poly would not let me.

We have Construction and 40 gold from CFC. We are Medieval.

Important question Do we send the 40 gold back to CFC or not? If they are having barb problems, they may have to refuse the techs we are to send them to avoid accepting the gold. If we received the gold and that put them into a defecit situation, and we do not send it back, then they could lose units and or buildings. I would very much prefer to be instructed by CFC on whether to send the gold or not. It is their call.

Also, it is my sad duty to inform you that N03 'DarkCloud' was lost in action when ordered to attack a Parthian barbarian camp. The nation mourns.

We will have Republic at the start of the next turn. We intend to go into anarchy when the tech is discovered so that we may come out of anarchy one turn earlier.

I intend to play the turn at about 10.30pm EDT. Hopefully Trip or someone from the FAM can get through to CFC by that time.

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[Octavian_X] Since we'll likely be broke this turn, send it back, along with the techs.


And so that is that.

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Diplomacy: (done after movement)

Polytheism and Currency sent to CDG, accepted. They already have Construction and HBR.
Polytheism and Currency with 40 gold sent to CFC, accepted.


Unit Movement and Actions:
H03 named 'vonHorseman'new from Mingapulco, moves to AGA

W12 'Warrior With No Name' pillages
W03 'Alva' moves 4

N05 'Enamel' moves 8
N03 'DarkCloud' attacks Parthian camp, DarkCloud has died

S01 'jagjef' loads on PoA
S05 'Hack' moves 2 1 4 enroute to kill Parthian barb camp

G01 'AS Princess of Apolyton' moves 4 7 9. Fortify all
G02 'AS Expedition' moves 7 4 2. Fortify all

Workers move

N02 'Mao' moves to Cuido de Alcohol
N06 'notthemeither' moves to AGA


Economy:
Apolyton building swordsman (4)
Mingapulco building swordsman (5)
Banantopia building temple (1)
Incensity building horseman (1)
Tripoli building barracks (4)
Cuido de Alcohol building walls (11)
Hispanica building temple (16)
Possumopolis building walls (11)
Karina building worker (3)
LuxInvicta building worker (3)
Big Bend building worker (6)
BigFurryCity building to temple (12)
Heart of Darkness set to worker (1)

Work Force:
Apolyton change to 4-5-13-17
Mingapulco change to 2-5-10-15-taxman
Banantopia change to 2-8-9-18
Incensity change to 2-3-5-17
Tripoli change to 17-19-20
Cuido de Alcohol change to 19
Hispanica NC
Possumopolis NC
Karina NC
LuxInvicta NC
Big Bend NC
BigFurryCity NC
Heart of Darkness NC

Workers:
Worker01: 'Dan' clearing (4) Big Bend 7
Worker02: 'Monkee' clearing (6) Big bend 8
Worker03: 'panag' moves 4 1
Worker04: 'EVC' clearing (4) HoD 6
Worker05: 'Dejon' clearing (4) HoD 6
Worker06: 'MrWIA'roading (2) Mingapulco 7
Worker07: 'Rush' roading (2) Apolyton 7
Worker08: 'Yo' moves to Cuido de Alocohol
Worker09: 'Calc II' clearing (6) Big bend 8
Worker10: 'Spink' chopping (4) Hispanica 9
Worker11: 'Horse' mining (1) Bananatopia 4
Worker12: 'Squid' mining (1) Bananatopia 1
Worker13: 'Otto' roading (1) Karina 1
Worker14: 'Mark' roading (1) Karina 1
Worker15: 'Gits' clearing (4) Big Bend 7

Slider:
Science at 90%. -1gpt. 87 (less 40 to CFC) gold. Republic in 1. We intend to initiate anarchy when the tech is discovered to come out of anarchy a turn earlier.

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Noticed a few changes, mostly trival :

1. GCA has 2 cities in the Top 5 now, Catchpolis - their capital and Algalord. Algalord probably has a temple.

2. Our literacy position has changed from 4 to 2. But we did not discover literacy or build library. Does going into a new age improves the position (we are still at 3%, no change) ? Or more civilisation has built libraries ?

3. Our Military Services has drop from 2 to 3 since Turn 100.

4. CDG worker is still on the same tile. Is he building a road ? cutting jungle ? or just being idle ? But obviously, CDG is not gifting the worker to CFC or the worker will be heading south.

5. We did not find anything with our ships. Looks like we have to discuss suicide mission after all.

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Originally posted by rush
Noticed a few changes, mostly trival :

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2. Our literacy position has changed from 4 to 2. But we did not discover literacy or build library. Does going into a new age improves the position (we are still at 3%, no change) ? Or more civilisation has built libraries ?

3. Our Military Services has drop from 2 to 3 since Turn 100.

4. CDG worker is still on the same tile. Is he building a road ? cutting jungle ? or just being idle ? But obviously, CDG is not gifting the worker to CFC or the worker will be heading south.

5. We did not find anything with our ships. Looks like we have to discuss suicide mission after all.


Interesting... Thanks for the observations rush. I don't know about the Literacy rate thing - anyone...?

As for the Galleys they have fortified on the Westernmost point they can, and we can only hope they find something next turn, or we must contemplate suicide or returning somewhere else (possible the NW of Apolyton) to explore further.

The CDG worker? Best not to worry about them anymore. When the tech deal is done and we have the free Medieval tech I imagine they will be dying anyway.

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I would favor one galley striking west on a suicide route where it is now, and one galley striking west much further north along the coast, roughly in line with the multiple silk deposit.

(For what that's worth, which ain't much. )

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If a civ's libraries were sold or destroyed, perhaps this could explain the change in literacy?

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2. Our literacy position has changed from 4 to 2. But we did not discover literacy or build library. Does going into a new age improves the position (we are still at 3%, no change) ? Or more civilisation has built libraries ?


We also did not build a University, Research Lab, or one of the Literacy-increasing wonders, indeed.

Actually, at least two civs seem to have lost all of their libraries, since we moved up without gaining literature-related buildings.

Either two civs destroyed each other's libraries in a war (too much of a coincidence, if you ask me) or something's missing in the formula for Literacy.
It may be the fact that we're now Medieval. I would have to test that.

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