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Lancer is offline Lancer
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Will the EU unite europe into a single nation? If so, when? Enter the AD-FREE zone

Also, is the euro used all over europe yet?

If I were a super rich German, could I buy GB?

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No... cultural and language differences are too great.

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Yes... it will happen for economic reasons.

I predict that Britain will be last, dragged kicking and screaming...

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Yes... it will happen for economic reasons.
Trust me, if they do, it will fail. None of the countries will give up any real authority, and loose confederations always fail.

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Trust me, if they do, it will fail. None of the countries will give up any real authority, and loose confederations always fail.


They already have done and it's gone this far.

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Will never happen unless everyone starts speaking English as their first language.

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They already have done and it's gone this far.
The EU is not recognized as a single nation, sorry, try again.

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Neither you nor we envisage the creation of a European superstate that would take the place of our nation states and end their role as actors on the international stage. . . In the future, our nations will stay the first reference point for our people - Jaques Chirac

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The EU is not recognized as a single nation, sorry, try again.


Not what I've said. Some have already given up their currencies.

People like Chirac can talk all they want. Give it another 40 years or so and we'll see.

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Not what I've said. Some have already given up their currencies.
That's right. But I doubt the EU will be more than a trade pact or alliance.

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If I'm still in the country.. over my dead body. You have to walk over me and take all the guns and explosives from my dead hands!

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* DinoDoc waits for Roland to show up and argue that the US isn't a country

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Though I might not object.. depends what the real plans and blueprints are, and how fast the true integration is and all that.

If I disagree, there will be fight! If I agree, I'll have a beer. Either way, that night is ending to a huge mess.

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quote:
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That's right. But I doubt the EU will be more than a trade pact or alliance.


Economic activity determines political activity. Haven't you ever read Marx?

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Economic activity determines political activity. Haven't you ever read Marx?
The real question is, do I believe that crackpot?

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DD: Your sig is wrong. Che said "YAY REBUBLICANS!!!".

The Eu will unite into one single nation once the world unites into one single nation.

Read: Never.

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The real question is, do I believe that crackpot?


I should have put a next to that.

It'll come though, for those sort of reasons. If the Germans and French can get on, all else follows....

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It'll come though, for those sort of reasons. If the Germans and French can get on, all else follows....
I can guarantee you the Balkan states will not sign on. And a true EU would need all of Europe.

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I can guarantee you the Balkan states will not sign on. And a true EU would need all of Europe.


I hadn't thought about them. They don't matter anyway: the sheep ****gers...

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Someday when space travel is commonplace people will realize how terribly insignificant we all are, and unite so we can be insignificant in larger groups. Then, and only then, will the EU become a single nation.

You can quote me on that.

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It will never happen, English are not going to join in the French-German Eurocom periphery

The anti-US sentiment will simmer down when Bush is out of office and the global recession is over

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****gers...

I'm usually pretty perceptive about censored words, but you have me at a loss.

Anyways Aggypoo, since that entire region is in Europe, they are requirements for a "United Europe".

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Got spare money?

****coms

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Originally posted by Sava

I'm usually pretty perceptive about censored words, but you have me at a loss.



s haggers

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**** is censored? wtf... I can say cocksucking shiteating asspirates but not ****?

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gotta go to work

oh the humanities...

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gotta go to work

oh the humanities...


Convert to communism and NEVER work again! Let the state pay for everything!

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EU may become a single nation some day, but it surely won't happen within the next few decades.

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Define "country".

What is the latest SCOTUS case law on sovereignty of US states? For the EU, I suggest you read McCormick, Questioning Sovereignty.

As for those who define the EU as a "trade area", get a basic text book about EU law. Then you may have a clue what you are talking about.

And "nation" is an outdated concept.

 
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