08-08-2003 14:09									#1
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	08-08-2003 23:54									#2
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Friendly Relations: Nuc Master -- contact MAST with a very friendly letter, and invite them to chat with us about anything and everything. You can ask them if they've met anyone, but don't expect them to tell you the truth. You know who these guys are.

We mostly need to get a friendly beginning and get some tech cooperation in place.

Guru: Name the next settler: Happy Hippies.

--Togas

	09-08-2003 00:57									#3
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Hello neighbor!

Our friendly warrior-scout Goody Hut Gary has discovered your civilization!

We are overjoyed to find you and to finally meet you! We have read your many hysterical posts in the main forum and look forward to making various deals with you. All of us here at Sunshina are excited to meet and make new friends with you and we hope to establish a long and peaceful relationship with your creative and outgoing team.

We posess the technology of Alphabet and Bronze Working, Ceremonial Burial, and Pottery. Would you mind telling us what techonology you have so that we can work out some trades between us? And what technology are you currently researching?

We also think it would be in the most sunny interests that we sign a non-agression pact. It is mainly up to you until what time but Sunshina would think it would be best if it is until Turn ___.

I have also been wondering if you had any contacts with other civilizations?

I have eagerly volunteered to serve as your Ambassador and I am excited to get to know all of you. If you need to speak to my team please contact me at any time and I will do everything I can to help you.

-Nuclear Master

	09-08-2003 01:00									#4
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Ok there are a few things I need to discuss. I should contact OPD with this? What turn will the NAP extend to? And where will the chat take place?

	09-08-2003 01:20									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master We posess the technology of Alphabet and Bronze Working, Ceremonial Burial, and Pottery. Would you mind telling us what techonology you have so that we can work out some trades between us? And what technology are you currently researching?

I wonder if it is wise to tell them every technology we currently have. They can fill in the blanks for awhile for all I care. It's easy enough for them to figure our starting techs, but perhaps we could simply state that we would like to discuss trade options rather than offer up our diplomatic leverage for free.

Are we still able to discuss this letter or has it already been sent?

	09-08-2003 01:52									#6
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It hasn't been sent yet. You mean like this? We would possibly like to trade one starting tech for one of yours. Would you mind telling us what techonology you have so that we can work out some trades between us? And what technology are you currently researching?

Or something like that?

	09-08-2003 01:53									#7
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MoBH: Settler should build this turn, then set to build granary. Laborers on mined grassland and irrigated floodplain.

Note that once the settler is built the city will be down to size 2. The warrior will not be needed for eight more turns (isee post) for happiness control. I suggest using this time to explore a little close to home.

	09-08-2003 02:26									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master It hasn't been sent yet. You mean like this? We would possibly like to trade one starting tech for one of yours. Would you mind telling us what techonology you have so that we can work out some trades between us? And what technology are you currently researching? Or something like that?

Something like that would definitely be more discreet. However, maybe I'm being overly cautious about this whole thing.

Maybe, instead, you could just say: I can tell you confidentially that we posess the technology of Alphabet and Bronze Working, Ceremonial Burial, and Pottery.

Maybe that will ensure that it will go no farther than them. I just hope that they don't need to be reminded that diplomatic communiques may contain sensitive info.

	09-08-2003 02:46									#9
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Well let's see what anyone else thinks about it. Remember teams may not take us that seriously. And it's MAST. So you can't really trust what they say.

	09-08-2003 05:47									#10
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Just tell them our techs. No need to play games. If we're to build any sort of long term tech trades we need to just put it all out on the table and act the part of friendly, trusting hippies.

Act defensive, then they think we have something to hide. We have nothing to hide.

Oh, and you need to be able to chat with them on mIRC. If you need help, just PM myself or WB.

--Togas

	09-08-2003 08:27									#11
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Actions Taken

Worker Mr. Rogers mines bonus grassland
Goody Hut Gary moves SE (3) and is next to the borders of MAST.
Settler renamed to Happy Hippies, moved SW (1).
Gary's Brother moves SW (1)

Sunshinia changed to granary


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	09-08-2003 19:34									#12
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I went back and looked at the top cities for a few turns back. All of the top cities are the same or growing except for primate central. On turn 19 it was size 3 and turn 20 it was size 1, so they built a settler on their turn 19, 5 turns ahead of us and most likely have founded their second city a few turns ago. Since we now have more pop in our capital than they do, in those 5 turns, either they created a worker or they are focusing on production and not food.

Team 4 has a much higher score than the rest of us. They must have poped a settler or got a city from a hut.

With our warrior next to their border their city should be able to see him. That should give us in game communications. If not, then we need to find out from MAST where to meet to get communications. I don't want to enter their border without some agreement to arrange a meeting.

Take a look at the area around Bro. The hill 2-W and the jungle 3-NW both show signs of bordering on coast. That may be the edge of the continent.

We should check the coast tiles to the east of Bro to see if they are 1 or 2 food so we know whether or not it is fresh water.

	09-08-2003 20:42									#13
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The warrior in Sunshinia will not be needed for happiness control for another 8 turns. I would like him to move out and explore a little close to home.

Using the course marked in pink will give us a better idea of what is in the area of potential city sites. If unsure about him being away that many turns, at least move him to the hill marked with * as that will reveal most of the tiles in the area. Another option would be to move him straight south as we know very little of that area.

Edited to fix image link.

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