12-08-2003 06:32									#31
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** answer to thread's basic question **


Because more people have become heartless?

	12-08-2003 06:32									#32
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HEY! I'm the only one who can mock Fez.

Swissy, I didn't now that urban school boards are THAT corrupt!

	12-08-2003 06:34									#33
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Have you guys heard about the superintendent pulling in 100,000+ a year, that can't pass an elementary-level english test? Well, he's been able to pass the written section, but has failed the reading/writing part 3 times.

	12-08-2003 06:35									#34
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Actually apparently I do the "you criminal" line the best .

	12-08-2003 06:41									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Verto Have you guys heard about the superintendent pulling in 100,000+ a year, that can't pass an elementary-level english test? Well, he's been able to pass the written section, but has failed the reading/writing part 3 times.

	12-08-2003 06:42									#36
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why does a superintendent need to read?

He just walks around inspecting the schools and such.

As long as the teachers can read, we are doing A-OK

	12-08-2003 06:44									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident why does a superintendent need to read? He just walks around inspecting the schools and such. As long as the teachers can read, we are doing A-OK

You don't mind having a 100,000 dollars of taxpayer money go to someone who can't pass a basic english test?

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quote: Originally posted by Verto You don't mind having a 100,000 dollars of taxpayer money go to someone who can't pass a basic english test?

You didn't realize that Dissident was joking?

	12-08-2003 06:47									#39
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am I, MrFun? am I?

really, once you get past the teacher part of the education system, all you are is a beauracrat. It's not like he's teaching our children. His job is to keep the system running smoothly and provide kickbacks to democrats.

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quote: Originally posted by MrFun You didn't realize that Dissident was joking?

What, you mean you don't realize that I'm joking?

My apologies. Public education is a touchy subject for me, and I view it very seriously.

	12-08-2003 06:48									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident why does a superintendent need to read? He just walks around inspecting the schools and such.

They do a lot of paperwork, at least in my school.

	12-08-2003 06:48									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident am I, MrFun? am I? really, once you get past the teacher part of the education system, all you are is a beauracrat. It's not like he's teaching our children. His job is to keep the system running smoothly and provide kickbacks to democrats.

Such cynical sarcasm today -- how have you been lately?

	12-08-2003 06:55									#43
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bah suburbia is the world of leftist white decadence...

i think people in this thread are confusing small towns with suburbs... small towns and rural areas have always been very conservative... suburbs are much more liberal, being the haven of upper middle class professionals (lawyers et al) but the fact that they got families probably moderated them a bit.

	12-08-2003 07:01									#44
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You can have money and be liberal. If anything, having a family will make me more radically liberal.

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people with money are liberal only if they feel guilty about it

	12-08-2003 07:08									#46
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Diss:

	12-08-2003 07:19									#47
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most conservatives are lower middle class though...

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quote: Originally posted by Dissident people with money are liberal only if they feel guilty about it

now thats classic

	12-08-2003 07:20									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer most conservatives are lower middle class though...

that's not correct

I'm going to drag your ass outside Philadelphia and show you the real world one of these days

	12-08-2003 07:26									#50
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Dissident:

my AP Gov't Test had a graph (i assume these graphs in the test are not hypothetical) which was based on a poll and showed that a plurality across all but the lowest tenth of americans, considered themselves conservative... the conservative side did increase by increments as you got higher up on the income scale (though it balanced out in the 7 or 8th area a bit [hence upper middle class liberalism) to the point where the top tenth was 70% conservative but all the tenths below that (except for the 1, 7 and 8 or so) still showed a high percentage of conservatives.

wish i was allowed to copy the graph and keep it for myself but it was test material.

see the thing you're forgetting is all the rural, small-town, and trailer park people who carry the republican party. there aint enough rich people to be conservatives and keep conservatism politcally viable... logically, the majority of conservatives are lower middle class.


thanks

	12-08-2003 07:26									#51
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"people with money are liberal only if they feel guilty about it"

Some people with money should feel guilty about it. I am as of now without money, and therefore feel only blissful prole purity.

And hunger.

	12-08-2003 07:33									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer Dissident: my AP Gov't Test had a graph (i assume these graphs in the test are not hypothetical) which was based on a poll and showed that a plurality across all but the lowest tenth of americans, considered themselves conservative... the conservative side did increase by increments as you got higher up on the income scale (though it balanced out in the 7 or 8th area a bit [hence upper middle class liberalism) to the point where the top tenth was 70% conservative but all the tenths below that (except for the 1, 7 and 8 or so) still showed a high percentage of conservatives. wish i was allowed to copy the graph and keep it for myself but it was test material. see the thing you're forgetting is all the rural, small-town, and trailer park people who carry the republican party. there aint enough rich people to be conservatives and keep conservatism politcally viable... logically, the majority of conservatives are lower middle class. thanks

well maybe. But most people I see are too ashamed to call themseleves conservatives.

	12-08-2003 07:34									#53
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Carnegie and Rockefeller were hardly liberals and they didn't fell guilty about having money yet they still made huge donations...

and about urban school districts... the philly one was a huge mess three years ago... it was millions of dollars in debt... hundreds of thousands of dollars in teacher's salaries "vanished"... the teacher's union threatened a strike... there was a massive call for the super-intendent to resign... the state of PA threatened to take over the district (though it was clear that they did not want to)... in the end, Edison Corporation offered to 'buy' the district but that was decided against halfly... instead, the philly school district is now re-organized and is jointly controlled by Edison Corp. and the state, run by CEO Paul Vallas... the worst performing schools have been privatized but everything else has been left basically the same for now.

	12-08-2003 07:36									#54
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Dissident:

i know what you mean... got fundamentalist Baptists going to church regularily, who abhore abortion, are against homosexuality, etc. and they still call themselves Democrats...

people in the inner city are crazy...

	12-08-2003 07:37									#55
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Edison corp ehh.

I think they own one of our schools as a test project. I'm not sure how that's going so far.

	12-08-2003 07:51									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident people with money are liberal only if they feel guilty about it

Dissident, this may be hard for you to believe, but there are some people who:
a) care about humanity
b) realize the benefits of mutual altruism

Fact is, liberals are happier than conservatives.

Besides, being liberal has nothing to do with being against money. It's just that in a liberal society, you can buy more with less.

	12-08-2003 07:52									#57
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quote: a) care about humanity b) realize the benefits of mutual altruism

why oh why is it that religious people tend to be conservative then?

	12-08-2003 07:53									#58
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There are liberals who are religious.

What bubble do you live in?

	12-08-2003 07:54									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer why oh why is it that religious people tend to be conservative then?

because liberals like relativism and god doesn't.

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quote: Originally posted by MrFun There are liberals who are religious. What bubble do you live in?

he used the word tend.