19-08-2003 05:39									#61
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Yeah, well, CNN also reported that you could die of a blood clot on an airplane just because it's happened to ONE person in the history of civilization.

	19-08-2003 05:52									#62
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The much talked about Deep Vain Thrombosis also known as Economy Class Syndriom.

	19-08-2003 08:18									#63
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Darn NJ, they ban fireworks and also make it hard for some nut to blow 'emselves up at the gas station. Hows a pyro supposed to have fun?

	19-08-2003 08:20									#64
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You could drive a truck into a gas pump .

	19-08-2003 08:23									#65
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You know, you'd be surprised how often we had to change the nozzles and hoses because morons would drive off with the things still in the tank... (a reason for self service? could be!)

	19-08-2003 08:24									#66
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Also, gas pumps have special safety systems that close off the pumps from the tanks underneath the gas station, so this stuff in the movies where you hit the pumps and everything goes to hell.. it just doesn't happen. But you will get a nice explosion from the truck, however..


You'd also be surprised at people's reactions when we tell them we've run out of gas... for some reason, they seem to think we have it pumped in straight from the refinery...

	19-08-2003 08:26									#67
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Damn... oh well .

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quote: Originally posted by Dom Pedro II And btw, its the gas station owners, and their organization, that have made sure this legislation stays in place... they are very interested in not having people pump their own gas. The difference in the insurance makes the pumpers worthwhile.

There is legislation against self service petrol stations?

	19-08-2003 18:41									#69
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Pretty much everyone pumps their own petrol (gas) here. Would be very odd to find a station that had an attendant to do it for you.

I have seen one but I think that was in Ireland.

	19-08-2003 18:59									#70
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So, you like have no service whatsoever?

Here, you can choose, but usually, we fill it ourselves, it's 3c cheaper per liter.

Oh, and current gas prices: 1USD per liter. That's... 3 times as much as you americans pay, right?

	19-08-2003 19:02									#71
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Nope. They need to keep the prices down, couldn't afford to hire someone to fill your car up for you, which is totally extravagant anyway.

	19-08-2003 19:03									#72
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I am grateful that I have not yet ever paid $2.00 a gallon for fuel.

	19-08-2003 19:31									#73
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quote: Originally posted by HershOstropoler There is legislation against self service petrol stations?

Some states do. I know in Oregon in the 1970's the socialists outlawed self-serve at gas stations as an ill fated make work program for the state's unemployed. Legally the station had to hire an attendent to pump your gas for you. Of course all this accomplished was to make the price of gas so high in Oregon that everyone bought their gas in another state when ever possible.

	19-08-2003 19:36									#74
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That's utterly bizarre.

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quote: Originally posted by HershOstropoler There is legislation against self service petrol stations?

there is in Oregon

and apparently in New Jersey

Jon Miller

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quote: Originally posted by HershOstropoler That's utterly bizarre.

I agree but for some reason the socialists in America keep coming up with bone head ideas like this thus allowing the conservatives to publically humiliate them.

	19-08-2003 19:48									#77
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I have seen many stupid regulations, but that's a really odd one.

	19-08-2003 19:53									#78
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It hink that Oregon has the highest minimum wage in the US and also the worst economy (or second worse or something like that)

the issue isn't so much that having a high minimum waeg is bad, it is that the economy was changing over from Limber to somethnig else but nothing else ever really occured

Jon Mliler

	19-08-2003 20:04									#79
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Do you think one of the biggest reasons Oregon failed to attract new industry was it's artificialy high cost structure? I mean it has the most lavish welfare state in the country, one of the highest tax rates, is way over regulated, and has a high minium wage (and the government mandates that all government work can only be proformed by unions at high union rates). Why would any business in it's right mind want to move there?

	19-08-2003 20:05									#80
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The state of Oregon is a closed shop?

	19-08-2003 20:09									#81
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As far as I know the government's contracts can only go to companies which pay union wages.

	19-08-2003 20:42									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin I agree but for some reason the socialists in America keep coming up with bone head ideas like this thus allowing the conservatives to publically humiliate them.

That is a retarded scheme whatever political side you are on. Mind you a lot of the left wing policies that some US lefties come up with are annoying 'cause they give left wing politics a bad name.

	19-08-2003 20:52									#83
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I some stupid idiot at the gas station 2 weeks ago that was filling up her tank and was talking to her girlfriend in the car. Dumb F*** pulled the nozzel out of the tank before stopping it and got gas all over her...

Makes Oregon look smart...

I left for Fresno on Friday night gas was $1.68/gallon... Got up Sat morning t o fill up the car it was $1.92/gallon, in Fresno! It is usually 10-20 cents cheaper... Came home Sunday night $2.02/gallon at the same station that was $1.68/gallon only two days before!

Gas companies are price gouging... Then, in California, when we have a time when gas could be cheaper we decided to add something to it to make it burn cleaner, F'up our cars, and pollute all the water sheds... I hate environmentalist morons!!!

Hmmm, I did go to Fresno for a Lumberjack Competition

	19-08-2003 21:29									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Yes, it just isn't feasible to have a European mass transit system in most US cities. It would probably bankrupt Atlanta trying to connect all the suburbs to MARTA . Therefore cars are essential.

Do you at least have a good public transportation system in downtown ? Many European cities are beginning to have large residential suburbs like in the US, yet the city centres have an excellent mass transit within them. The new idea is to build big parking lots in the outskirts of the city centre, near subway terminals, so that people may take public transportation even though they live far away from the centre.

In Bordeaux for example, the mass transit system is currently horrendous, but a tramway is being built. Since traffic is horrible in the city, it is hoped suburbers will park their car at the entry of the city, and take the tram to do their shopping / go to work in the future.

	20-08-2003 17:26									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller so you are a factory worker? Jon Miller

Nope. I'm an IT consultant (professional computer geek ). I plan, design, set up and run database systems for banks and various other customers (most of which are either pretty big companies or government agencies). I actually make a good deal more than the average Norwegian factory worker. Guess you could ask why I brought in the American factory worker in the first place, but hey, gas prices are the same to me as they are to a factory worker...

	21-08-2003 06:44									#86
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gas mileage arguement is a little overdun. Again, most cars in america are the same in europe or anywhere else gas mileage wise. My Mazda 6 gets 27/36 mpg and its a 12 gallon tank. My F-150 got about half that much (which is still pretty good). And most compact cars (Neon, Intrepid, eclipse, taurus) get in excess of 40 mpg.

	21-08-2003 07:52									#87
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It's not so cheap in the US when you consider how much of our military budget is spent on the Middle East. With all the tax money we're spending on it, we could conver to wind & solar and get our revenge on the terrorists by making their country, just a superstitous desert backwater without any marketable resources.

	21-08-2003 08:20									#88
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WOOT!

Here's to boycotting Arab oil.