18-08-2003 09:41									#1
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In the past week gas prices have shot up 40 to 50 cents and apparantly there's some shortage now so tons of places have no gas. The Chevron station by my place had upwards of 50 cars trying to get gas there tonight around 9:00. WTF! I'm almost out of gas, and I sure as hell don't want to pay $2 a gallon, but it looks like I'm gonna have to, if there's even gas at all left.

Is this a problem anywhere else or just here?

	18-08-2003 09:45									#2
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Not as bad in San Diego area, but we have higher base prices than almost anywhere in the lower 48.

Gas is up about 20-30 cents a gallon here.

	18-08-2003 09:47									#3
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Come on all this free Iraqi oil where is it I want my money back!!!

	18-08-2003 09:50									#4
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What the hell are we paying these Saudi camel jokeys for? I want cheap gas.

At least I normal get my boss to pay for my gas.

	18-08-2003 10:32									#5
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Rabble! Rabble! Rabble rabble!

	18-08-2003 10:44									#6
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Tsk, 2$ a gallon being your worst nightmare ? Here, we pay more than 1€ a litre

	18-08-2003 10:56									#7
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It's not the price I'm worried about so much as the fact that most gas stations don't have gas right now.

	18-08-2003 11:47									#8
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How much litre is a gallon?

	18-08-2003 11:51									#9
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3.8

	18-08-2003 12:59									#10
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You elected the losers who are ****ing you over with high gas prices so you have no one to blame but yourselves.

	18-08-2003 13:58									#11
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well our gas prices are better than California, but not by much. Arizona is much better than us.

Our prices have shot up. Luckily I just filled up my 30 gallon tank before the huge jump. But the bad news is I have a gas hog, and my tank will only last another 2 or 3 weeks before I have to fill up again.

	18-08-2003 14:09									#12
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$2 a gallon expensive?

	18-08-2003 14:09									#13
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US$0.50 per litre for Unleaded here.

	18-08-2003 14:13									#14
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It's probably £3.50 a gallon here now. $5?

	18-08-2003 14:18									#15
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One gallon of Diesel here is aroun NZ$2.40 (US$1.20, £0.70)

	18-08-2003 14:33									#16
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH $2 a gallon expensive?

It is for Arizona... and it is because I'm poor.

From what I understand now a pipeline burst somewhere and that's why half of Phoenix has no gas now. At least it's not a powergrid right?

	18-08-2003 14:36									#17
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Like I said, it's at least $5 a gallon here so it seems really wierd someone complaining about it when it's so ludicrously cheap (to us)

	18-08-2003 15:03									#18
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Now you know why its an economic viable option to drive a SUV in the US

Uh no! 2$ a gallon

	18-08-2003 15:05									#19
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Yep.

	18-08-2003 15:46									#20
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why the heck do you call it Gas?

	18-08-2003 15:54									#21
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At the moment, gas is NOK 8.49 per liter where I am.

That's almost exactly € 1 and about US$ 1.15.

So, that's over $ 4 per gallon.

-But then again, I make at least three times more than the average American factory worker, so I guess I can afford to pay somewhat higher prices...

All things told, I think the cost of living pretty much evens out in the long run. The thing is, I can go to America and have a field day buying stuff because to me everything's so cheap over there, but an American coming to Norway is going to get ripped off and skinned alive! -Economically speaking, that is...

	18-08-2003 15:55									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Demerzel why the heck do you call it Gas?

Because it's a liquid!

	18-08-2003 16:09									#23
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I remember when it used to be a tupence for a hogshead worth of octane distilate.

Actually, wait, I don't. That's just the drugs kicking in...

	18-08-2003 16:41									#24
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True, but you could only drive about 6 furlongs before you had to refill the tank.

	18-08-2003 16:55									#25
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I thought it was a thread about flatulence, but then realized it was just the usual 'my petrol isn't quite free, however can I continue driving an unnecessarily large fuel guzzling ecodamage wagon?' whine by Americans.

Move to Eire/Ireland. Then you'd have prices to complain about.

	18-08-2003 16:59									#26
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Dang, $ 2 per gallon... if you drive a Nissan Micra, you wouldn't have to spend more than $ 10 per year on petrol

	19-08-2003 01:23									#27
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom I thought it was a thread about flatulence, but then realized it was just the usual 'my petrol isn't quite free, however can I continue driving an unnecessarily large fuel guzzling ecodamage wagon?' whine by Americans.

So, because Europe was unable/unwilling to do something about gas prices, the US should do the same, until we pay 5 bucks a gallon?

	19-08-2003 01:31									#28
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Our prices are deliberately that high, most of it is tax, to discourage driving and encourage people to have more efficient cars. It's more a question of us being willing to do it.

	19-08-2003 01:37									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Verto So, because Europe was unable/unwilling to do something about gas prices, the US should do the same, until we pay 5 bucks a gallon?

Now, be fair. Europeans did something about gas prices: they shot them through the roof by taxing the hell out of petrol. Of course, they also then spent the money on alternative transportation infrastructures like metros and inter-urban rail, and as a result continue to have actual cities that people actually want to live in (as opposed to those sunbelt suburbs-on-steroids we call cities in the US, to which people fled from the dying cities of the northeast and midwest). Having just returned from driving on the absolute worst f*cking nightmare of a landscape that the automobile ever inflicted on any society -- I speak, of course, of US 19 north of Tampa -- I have to think that maybe the Eurocoms are onto something.

	19-08-2003 01:40									#30
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH It's probably £3.50 a gallon here now. $5?

If gas ever cost $5 per gallon here there would be politicians hanging from the street lights.