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Eli
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Jul 2000
time: 07:30
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Yup. The IJ claimed responsibility, supposedly in retaliation to the killing of some IJ terrorist couple days ago. Well, one thing the Arab terrorists do better than Israel is keep promises and threats.
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CPA - Evil Clone brigade
Nov 2001
time: 06:30
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LOTM:
This is a sound explanation, however I doubt a settlement of the problem would bring such influence to the US in the region. The road map has been presented by the quartet (despite the other 3 being more discreet, they have been instrumental in drawing it) and as things go on, there is more and more international cooperation on the Israel / Palestine conflict, because nobody wants this war to continue anymore.
The ME problem fuels Islamist or Arabic extremism worldwide, which is bad for Russia as well as for France (big Arabic community that identifies more and more to the Palestinian cause here).
I have thought of two reasons as to why France wanted to make the politcal arm of the Hamas a negociation partner:
- To appease extremist Arabs in France. Chirac gives a great importance to inner cohesion and domestic safety. The more appeased the Arabs (even the radical fringe), the more quite things are, the better for Chirac.
- A real belief that negociation works. France has had some positive experiences with negociating with underground / terrorist groups. In New Caledonia, for example, the bloodbath stopped as soon as the use of overwhelming force stopped, and when the independantists were acknowledged as a valid negociation partner. We had something similar in Corsica. And last but not least, the negociations in Ivory Coast between the Rebels and the Loyalists are so far a success.
But I don't think negociation can work with these particular beasts, the Hamas and the IJ. Their aim is not legitimate or realist in any way - their aim is the destruction of Israel, and there is little reason they change their mind, since they weren't created over the strive for better living conditions for the Palestinians, but they were created over the hatred of Israel.
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000
time: 07:30
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I'm 24 hours away from declaring once and for all that I simply dont give a damn for what's going on in this insane country.
If the hudna remains in place after this... blissfull apathy, here I come.
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000
time: 07:30
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40 out of the 105 wounded are children.
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000
time: 07:30
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The HAMAS claimed responsibility too. Claiming that the terrorist was an Imam in a mosque.
This means that another suicide bomber is at loose around Jerusalem.
In addition, there is a hot warning about an attack in Tel Aviv.
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000
time: 07:30
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quote:
Originally posted by Sirotnikov
Update: 18 people dead.
Ok, according to my knowledge of Sharon, IDF will kill several Hamas and IJ leaders by tommorow noon. |
Which begs the question... If we can kill several Hamas/IJ leaderes so quickly, WTF wasnt it done before? Why all the assasinations wave before the hudna that scared the Hamas so much wasnt done before?
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Glasgow, Scotland
Oct 2000
time: 05:30
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The Hudna: from Siro's description is doesn't exactly sound as if Islamic society is as honourable as it would like us to believe. 
Why dignify it with that name. To me it's backstabbing, pure and simple. 
I really hope that the ceasefire holds, despite the horrible act that was committed. Violence just begets more violence. Look at the improvement in Northern Ireland since people started talking (OK, there are huge differences between Israel and Northern Ireland, but some of the lessons learned there can still apply).
And, no offence to the Israeli posters, but it seems that there is a never-ending supply of high-ranking militants. The way you say that Israel will go after them seems to suggest that previous efforts up until the ceasefire had barely dented the leadership of organizations such as Hamas, yet it seemed to me watching the news that a high level terrorist official was being killed every week.
The truth be told, I didn't see much progress before the road map, and if things go back to the way they were, I can't envision any being made either. But at the same time, Israel cannot afford to let this atrocity go unpunished. If Abbas doesn't start taking action immediately, I don't know what will happen, except it won't be good.
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000
time: 07:30
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Complete closure of Judea&Samaria. All Israeli trust-building actions that were supposed to happen in the next days, like removing road blocks, giving work permits, and transferring cities to Pal control are cancelled.
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20-08-2003 00:38
You can't discuss with these people. You have to cut off their financial and moral support, and physically destroy its key members 
sweet irony. even in these years of war, twice as much people die in car accidents!
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