21-08-2003 17:13									#1
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What makes you read an email? Obviously any with the subject line containing the words, penis, larger, breasts, blonde milfs, printer cartridge, Nigeria, Apolyton, Crazy Animal Sex, Re: Your were so good last night, Click to Install virus, Alexanders Horse, daishdfdidmakeodafd, bukakke gets deleted.

However I always seem to get sucked in if the subject line is (none).

You? Or you never get sucked in? Or you never get spam emails?

	21-08-2003 17:17									#2
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None as the subject line works, as do any with a friend's name.

The vast majority I delete though.

	21-08-2003 17:36									#3
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I sometimes open for the sheer curiosity to know what the spammers have now found...
For some time, I opened to go to the "unsubscribe" link. Since the spam I got trebled in a matter of days, I quickly stopped

	21-08-2003 18:08									#4
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(none) works surprisingly well, especially if it's from "John" or "Sarah" or some other common name. There's always a chance that one of your friends has got a new email address or something ... of course they're always spam, but I open them anyway. No harm done though since I'd never open an attachment on one of those.

Spiff: Replying to any form of spam mail is the worst thing you can do. It lets them know they've found an active email address. But I guess you realise that now.

	21-08-2003 18:39									#5
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If I don't recognize it, it's trash.

	21-08-2003 18:45									#6
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I know exactly who I should be getting email from, so I delete anything that doesn't fit.

	21-08-2003 18:48									#7
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If I do get spam, it's too buried in the stuff from the freeciv-dev mailing list for me to notice.

	21-08-2003 19:04									#8
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I upgraded to AOL 8.0 a couple of weeks ago. I get occasional spam emails but now happily click the "report as spam" button and they disappear.

I know - I must be the only person on Poly who is actually quite happy with AOL but there you go.

What is really nice about 8.0 is the pop-up blocker. There seems to be more pop-ups on Poly recently and a typical visit now racks up 5 or 6 pop-ups but not with AOL, all I see is a counter going up and don't have to close the unwanted windows.

	21-08-2003 19:12									#9
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1045 hours = 43 days, 13 hours.
CD frequency = 60 days.
Correct me if I misremember.

	21-08-2003 19:13									#10
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I use SpamPal to transfer all supposed Spam into a folder called "Suspected Spam".
But normally I look even into those Mails which are suspected Spam, but always with my Internet-Connection turned off, just for safety

	21-08-2003 19:13									#11
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I thought this was going to be about Ming, rah, or Mao.

	21-08-2003 19:24									#12
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Spammers are never sucsessful with me. I don't get any spam on my main account(except from the occasional wanted student organization/stupid thing at pitt, but then those are obvious and easy to delete), because I never post it on the internet or use it to sign up for anything on an untrusted website. If I want to sign up for something I have a spare Hotmail account I use to sign up for stuff on the internet. Now that One gets about 15 or so SPAM mails a day, but then whenever I want something on that account I am always look for a specific thing.

	21-08-2003 19:25									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi Spammers are never sucsessful with me. I don't get any spam on my main account(except from the occasional wanted student organization/stupid thing at pitt, but then those are obvious and easy to delete), because I never post it on the internet or use it to sign up for anything on an untrusted website. If I want to sign up for something I have a spare Hotmail account I use to sign up for stuff on the internet. Now that One gets about 15 or so SPAM mails a day, but then whenever I want something on that account I am always look for a specific thing.

This is what I do now also.

	21-08-2003 19:29									#14
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I also have a trash account I use to register everywhere I go (btw, it's the account I use for 'Poly). I get spam on this one. Sadly, some spam managed to slip to my main email adress, but so far, I get very little on it.
I check my spam account everyday or almost, since it's the addy most "unknown people from the internet" have from me... So it happens that I get a serious message.

	21-08-2003 19:39									#15
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As far as AOL goes, there is no such thing as an "upgrade" .
AOL isn't even the internet.

	21-08-2003 19:43									#16
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slowwhand

	21-08-2003 19:43									#17
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand As far as AOL goes, there is no such thing as an "upgrade" . AOL isn't even the internet.

You don't think I'm stupid enough to actually look at the garbage AOL provides do you?

It works well enough for email and web browsing and that is all I need or use.

	21-08-2003 19:49									#18
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The AOL adds are pretty funny, though. To look at those you'd think that streaming music and downloading movie trailers was only possible if you sign up for AOL. They even seem to suggest that searching for stuff is some kind of magical feature.

And the concept of "AOL Keywords" makes me laugh too. I once saw an advert on the side of a bus for Harry Potter the Philosopher's Stone. The advert made the express point of telling us that, if you wanted to find the movie's official website, the AOL Keyword you should use was ... wait for it.... "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone". You could have knocked me down with a feather. Thank goodness those kind folks at AOL saw fit to help us, we'd have had no idea what to type into search engines otherwise.

	21-08-2003 19:54									#19
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AOL breeds incompetence, and spam.

	21-08-2003 20:35									#20
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Apolyton in the subject makes me open the mail, that's for sure.

	21-08-2003 20:40									#21
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand AOL breeds incompetence, and spam.

I am not in the business of defending AOL but before you claim they aren't doing anything about spam check these stories.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2988207.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2949887.stm

This one is interesting from a european point of view

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3068627.stm

No ISP can afford to have its users annoyed by spam so it is in their interest to stop it. AOL is particularly prone to this since many of its users aren't capable of dealing with spam themselves so the company has a lot to lose if they don't take a lead on fighting spam.

	21-08-2003 20:43									#22
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Anyone who uses AOL is going to burn in Hell.

	21-08-2003 21:19									#23
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I get tons of spam each day, but I've got mailwasher installed, which automaticly deletes spam messages, and messages with the usual words in the subject/name field...

It deletes automaticly about 80-90% of all spam

	21-08-2003 21:22									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor For some time, I opened to go to the "unsubscribe" link. Since the spam I got trebled in a matter of days, I quickly stopped

Sucker

	21-08-2003 21:28									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Sucker

Well, someone working in a mortgage agency (that was Plato IIRC) told me that they had strict legal requirements to stop spamming those who unsubscribed. What a sucker I was to trust a mortgage salesman

	21-08-2003 21:54									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Well, someone working in a mortgage agency (that was Plato IIRC) told me that they had strict legal requirements to stop spamming those who unsubscribed. What a sucker I was to trust a mortgage salesman

Oh, I think you can trust him on this matter. The Spammer who sent the eMil to you probably wonīt send another Mail.

He jut didnīt mention, what they do with your eMail-Aress after they have removed it from their Spamming-List.
As you have klicked thiir Link and therefore have proven to the Spammers that anybody reads the Maiols they send to your eMail-Addi, they can sell your Adress for a lot of money to other Spamers (AFAIK there are large Lists with thousands of eMail-Adies in them, which are sold from one Spammer to another, those which contain Adresses which donīt respond to the Spam [and therefore have no proof that anyone reads them] are a lot less worth than those where it is proven that the eMails get retrieved and read [for example by klicking on unsubscribe ])

So instead of receiving one Mail per Month from this one Spammer you receive 10 Mails from 10 Spammers, beginning a short while after you klicked on unsubscribe.

	21-08-2003 22:00									#27
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All one does by "unsubscribing" is verify a working address.

	21-08-2003 22:08									#28
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet Spiff: Replying to any form of spam mail is the worst thing you can do. It lets them know they've found an active email address. But I guess you realise that now.

Back in the good ol' days when non-RFC compliant mail servers were common and spammers used to operate from their own domain (emailking, etc.), I used to play back with spammers.

Now I just delete delete delete.

	21-08-2003 22:19									#29
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quote: Originally posted by CerberusIV I upgraded to AOL 8.0 a couple of weeks ago. I get occasional spam emails but now happily click the "report as spam" button and they disappear. I know - I must be the only person on Poly who is actually quite happy with AOL but there you go. What is really nice about 8.0 is the pop-up blocker. There seems to be more pop-ups on Poly recently and a typical visit now racks up 5 or 6 pop-ups but not with AOL, all I see is a counter going up and don't have to close the unwanted windows.

Didn't see this before.

You do realize you don't need AOL for pop-up blocking, don't you? You can download one free of the interent.

	22-08-2003 05:21									#30
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I have had a private e-mail address for about four years and so far I think I have only received one spam .

I have had an e-mail address at work for nearly two years and have yet to be spammed.

Am I lucky or what?

BTW I deleted my spam (all one of it) without reading it.