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How's that for a bombastic thread title? 
Greek authorities once more shock the civilised world by claiming naked breasts offend their civilisation 
In the most recent event, an innocent young british girl was sent to the dungeons for 8 months:
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Rhodes prosecutor George Economou told one British tourist, Jemma Gunning, after she stripped off in front of 500 cheering clubbers at a 4am party. "You have insulted our civilisation and insulted your own country," he continued, before she was given an eight-month jail sentence |
http://travel.guardian.co.uk/news/s...1026098,00.html
And I thought Americans were the puritan ones
/joking
Ok, seriousely now, I agree with Greeks on this. Tourists, English or other, should not be allowed to go totaly off limits. I would not fine this girl just for showing her breasts though. Perhaps she was just checking are they still there or somehing 
In Croatia, young tourists have places where they can go on heavy drinking, but these are usually beaches some distance from actuall settlements where people live or have houses or hotels. And there are not many of these places.
So Greece should probably also have these lets-get-drunk-and-see-if-we-survive-it in unpopulated islands or something.
How do you people propose this situation be resolved?
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Bereta_Eder
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It is one thing having fun and a different thing doing this Vetlegion:
Tour operators are blamed for death by booze
Greeks call for clampdown on British hooliganism
Helena Smith Rhodes
Sunday August 17, 2003
The Observer
Irish-born Paddy Doran died almost immediately after he was stabbed in the throat by another British tourist partying in a Rhodes bar last week. For Greeks, appalled by the alcohol-fuelled antics of hooligan holidaymakers, the 17-year-old's death will not be forgotten quickly.
Instead, it has renewed their determination to crack down on the sort of riotous behaviour blamed for fellow reveller, Peter Navarro, attacking Doran with a broken bottle during a drunken nightclub brawl.
The 21-year-old Navarro, who faces an investigating magistrate today, with five other Britons accused of causing affray, admitted killing Doran.
He said he had been so drunk he could barely remember why. Police, who have stepped up patrols in all resorts beloved of British youths, believe the fight began over a girl who had been flirting with the men.
Doran was the second Briton in under a week to die in Faliraki, the island's infamous 'anything goes' resort. Days before, a 30-year-old tourist was crushed to death trying to wriggle under a dustbin lorry in what appears to have been a drunken dare.
That followed an incident when an Irish tourist shinnied up a flagpole outside a Rhodes hotel, snatched the Greek ensign and ran naked through the streets ripping it to shreds. Weeks before, Greeks had been scandalised by televised video footage of three female Club 18-30 representatives participating in an oral sex show on a Corfu beach. In Faliraki, say outraged locals, intoxicated Britons frequently indulge in street sex after bar binges.
'This boy's death is seen as the tip of the iceberg. It's got people very agitated,' said Faliraki Mayor Yiannis Iatrides of last week's tragedy. 'It's another symp tom of unacceptable behaviour which has to stop. Locals are not just upset, they're a bit frightened. By about midnight a lot of these youths are so drunk they begin undressing and running around totally naked. We Greeks would never do this in their country. It's quite obscene.'
Since the season began 'at least 200' Britons had been arrested, either for drug dealing or being drunk and disorderly, he said. 'We don't have problems with tourists from anywhere else, just Britain,' the mayor lamented.
Increasingly, tour operators, with Club 18-30 (slogan: 'Nothing is Sacred') in the lead, are being blamed for the drunken antics. Tour reps, Greek officials say, make it their business to get tourists to lose their inhibitions.
On organised pub-crawls in resorts such as Faliraki - the scene of a rash of rapes - holidaymakers are 'egged on' to drink as much as possible by reps on commission from bar owners. If they remove their clothes they are promised a free pub-crawl coupon (10 free drinks) the next day.
'A lot of the problem stems from the way the holiday packages are advertised in Britain,' said Alexis Doukas at the Greek National Tourism Board (EOT). 'People see programmes on television and think anything goes.'
After Doran's death, local tour agents were summoned by Rhodes prosecutor Giorgos Iconomou to discuss controlling the behaviour of UK tourists.
Politicians have called for tour companies to be bound by a 'contract of good behaviour'. 'It's the clubs, especially the reps, who encourage a lot of this behaviour by hosting provocative games and egging on youngsters to drink as much as possible,' said Corfu MP Dr Spyridon Spyrou. 'Most group leaders are on commission so it's in their interests for clients to keep buying drinks.'
And yet Britons top tourist arrivals - more than three million are expected to visit Greece this year - so nobody is keen to drive them away.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/inte...1020318,00.html
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:30
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what is with tourists? they think that because they're in other country, they can do whatever the hell they want?
I'm just glad that most tourists in America tend to be Japanese and in philly, all they do is go to Independence Hall, see the liberty bell, and go to the "Love statue" park and the art museum... good old japanese people... clean and mannerly.
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:30
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Boris:
the no respect for personal space probably is just a cultural thing stemming from living in crowded japan... dont take it too personal or as the japanese people being rude.
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:30
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quote:
Originally posted by skywalker
However, they are being rude. |
Precisely.
Being a polite tourist means respecting and following the traditions of behavior for the culture you are visiting. It doesn't matter if it's acceptable to jam onto a subway car before letting people get off of it in your country--here it is very rude, and doing it makes you an inconsiderate tourist.
Last edited by Boris Godunov on 23-08-2003 at 22:47
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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:30
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goddamnit.. if I want to go on a holiday and party, then I do that. If I pay perfectly good money, see the sights at day and buy something crappy from the tourist shop, I am allowed to then get absolutely smashed and try to strip naked. I should be stopped in the naked part, but no jails.
Listen and learn. I'm going to get wasted if I so choose. It's most likely conscious decision to get so wasted I don't know what's even going on. In the course of drinking redicilous amounts of alcohol that would kill a small village, I can not be expected to be boring. Getting naked offends no countries. At the very best, I just make myself look stupid. If someone gets offended, they should go to jail for being such boring people.
If you create business and say 'come here foreigners, it's fun', you can expect drunkards. DEAL WITH IT!
Instead of getting bad publicity by being boring, how about benefiting from it. Make them spend money and lose their house while drunk. Like Las Vegas.
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:30
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and the word is NOT holiday... it's called vacation...
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C0ckney
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Big Up The Macedonian Massive
Apr 2000
time: 05:30
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what would you know about english speer?
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Bereta_Eder
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I don't know about this incident. However I'm sure she can appeal and not offend our civilziation and their own coun....
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23-08-2003 21:51
Maybe they do that because they like to get drunk and have sex in public? More likely because of the years of sexual repression the Brits traditionally labored under has finally been lifted so they're now randier then a Catholic school girl on spring break. 
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