27-08-2003 20:28									#31
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What does that make you since the south lost?

	27-08-2003 20:33									#32
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Try MikeH - it's not that difficult. Here's a clue - a female pig is called a sow, and has tits to begin with. Work the rest out yourself.

	27-08-2003 20:34									#33
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Yankees are as worthless as tits on a boar hog.

Yup, we can always count on you to make a bigoted statement!

How does it feel to know you were whipped by guys who are "as worthless as tits on a boar hog"? I mean, what does that make you Dixie-doodle dandies?

	27-08-2003 20:36									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Cruddy Try MikeH - it's not that difficult. Here's a clue - a female pig is called a sow, and has tits to begin with. Work the rest out yourself.

Ah, you appear to have accidently taken me seriously. Don't let it happen again.

	27-08-2003 20:39									#35
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Mike doesn't take me seriously on most things.
You learned your lesson, didn't you, Mike ?

	27-08-2003 20:41									#36
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I think my feelings about the stupidity of state pride are well known.

	27-08-2003 20:41									#37
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Oh, was that you? I thought it was Sava. I can't tell you American posters beginning with S apart.

	27-08-2003 20:43									#38
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I sincerely hope that students are allowed to refuse to make this pledge.

quote: Oh god. Just what the world needs, more ridiculous patriotic brainwashing.

Of all places, in a school .

	27-08-2003 20:45									#39
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The quotes from some of the students in the initial article suggest that even if they are technically allowed to refuse they will get bullied into it.

quote: “We all stand up and recite it,” said Avery Williams, a senior at Houston’s Lamar High School. “It’s been going great here. We haven’t had any rebellious kids here.”

	27-08-2003 20:48									#40
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quote: The quotes from some of the students in the initial article suggest that even if they are technically allowed to refuse they will get bullied into it.

well of course they get bullied into it...

that's why stupid pledges and religious practices should not be in schools... how can anyone expect our basic 1st Amendment freedoms to be protected when PUBLIC schools sanction such practices.

	27-08-2003 20:48									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Sava I think my feelings about the stupidity of state pride are well known.

Well, obviously, it would be natural for Sava to have an antipathy to any form of pride.

	27-08-2003 20:48									#42
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What I wouldn't give to be a student in the American school system. I would raise holy hell!!

	27-08-2003 20:48									#43
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It's not required. They can stand mute.

	27-08-2003 20:50									#44
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quote: Well, obviously, it would be natural for Sava to have an antipathy to any form of pride.

personally, how strong are morals, convictions, or concepts if you need to force children to pledge allegiance to them...

quote: It's not required. They can stand mute.

and get beaten up during recess by mouth-breathing dopes...

	27-08-2003 20:50									#45
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The Texas plege is short and sweet (apparently not short enough for Slowwhand to have learned it yet, since he has not posted it)
"Honor the Texas Flag, I Pledge allegence to thee, Texas, one and indivisable."

	27-08-2003 20:50									#46
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quote: Well, obviously, it would be natural for Sava to have an antipathy to any form of pride.

Pride is a pointless, irrelevant, irrational response. One that I do not think should be forced down peoples throats.

	27-08-2003 20:50									#47
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Yankees are as worthless as tits on a boar hog.

This reminds me of a dialogue in Trainspotting (which takes place in Scotland for you cultural illiterates).


"The English are f*cking w*nkers."

"Well what does that make us!?! We're colonized by w*nkers!"

And we have some uses, Sloww. After all, we forced you to get rid of Jim Crow.

	27-08-2003 20:53									#48
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quote: Pride is a pointless, irrelevant, irrational response. One that I do not think should be forced down peoples throats.

well, America has been historically known for being hypocritical about freedom...

	27-08-2003 20:57									#49
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Indeed. Why don't they just sod it and admit it... all they (the people in charge) care about is profit!

	27-08-2003 21:01									#50
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Pride is actually a Sin. No good Christian should allow themselves to be tempted by it.

	27-08-2003 21:03									#51
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quote: Originally posted by elijah Indeed. Why don't they just sod it and admit it... all they (the people in charge) care about is profit!

PHASE 1: make people pledge

PHASE 2: ?????

PHASE 3: PROFIT!!!

you South Park fans will get that one

quote: Pride is actually a Sin. No good Christian should allow themselves to be tempted by it.

freedom ain't the only thing American's are hypocritical about...

	27-08-2003 21:08									#52
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara This reminds me of a dialogue in Trainspotting (which takes place in Scotland for you cultural illiterates). "The English are f*cking w*nkers." "Well what does that make us!?! We're colonized by w*nkers!" And we have some uses, Sloww. After all, we forced you to get rid of Jim Crow.

But didn't you know that darkies were happy under Jim Crow until we Yankees polluted their minds with such despicable concepts as human dignity?

	27-08-2003 21:08									#53
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Of course.

There's quite a lot of greed, gluttony, sloth, envy, lust and anger as well.

Then there's that whole thou shalt not kill thing, which doesn't seem to have an exclusion for criminals in the version of the bible I read, there's the thing about forgiving those who trespass against you.

I expect there are many more.

Starting a war because someone attacks you is about the least Christian thing you can do.

	27-08-2003 21:09									#54
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Phase 2: People become extra malluable by the government or those that epitomise the ideals to which they are pledging alliegiance.

	27-08-2003 21:11									#55
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MikeH:

I would pay so much to have George W Bush on the OTF.

I would take great pleasure in ripping his ideals to tiny little shreds. I'm sure I'm not alone.... SAVA!!!

	27-08-2003 21:13									#56
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quote: Originally posted by elijah MikeH: I would pay so much to have George W Bush on the OTF. I would take great pleasure in ripping his ideals to tiny little shreds. I'm sure I'm not alone.... SAVA!!!

nah... remember Boris's old sig quote about arguing with idiots? plus, such revelations about his character would only scare me further...

edit: although I'd like to hang out with him and get him to smoke bud again... in addition... the idea of open discussions with politicians makes me think I'd like to hang out with Clinton in a public place with lots of young, supple women.

"what do you think Billy, how about that one?"

"oh yeah, she's got a purty mouth!"

	27-08-2003 21:15									#57
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Sava: All good ideas have their limits, and the otherwise good idea that one should not argue with idiots, has its limit at D!ck Cheney.

	27-08-2003 21:15									#58
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quote: Originally posted by elijah Sava: All good ideas have their limits, and the otherwise good idea that one should not argue with idiots, has its limit at D!ck Cheney.

Cheney isn't an idiot, he's pure evil...

	27-08-2003 21:16									#59
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quote: It's not required. They can stand mute.

But they can't sit down and do anything useful?

	27-08-2003 21:17									#60
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Elijah, you should really consider not speaking your opinion so much.
It just makes you look SO stupid.
Debate Bush. Tear his liitle ideals apart.