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MikeH is offline MikeH
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Yeah, as if his advisors would let him get anywhere near someone who would show him up so badly in public.

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Cheney isn't an idiot, he's pure evil...


Stop it! You're killing me

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Ah, by Therapy?

The world is ****ed and so am I
maybe it's the other way round I can't seem to decide
domestic refugees sink in the same boat as me
we suffer alone and these days I don't wanna go home

idiots authority promising equality
so where is the land of the free?
stop it you're killing me

love is for the weak or so you'd have me believe
the thought's killing me no body but a head o.d
don't know what's worse the loss of death or the gain of birth
I try to understand I can't accept just what I am

idiots authority promising equality
so where is the land of the free?
stop it you're killing me

I'm leaving on a train that's six miles down
can't feel no pain can't feel you now
when you drift away I'm singing 'on my way
I'm telling you' I can hear you coming to
I can see you pushing through

tell me can you see the can you feel the rain

idiots authority promising equality
so where is the land of the free?
stop it you're killing me

idiots authority promising equality
so where is the land of the free?
stop it you're killing me

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Elijah, you should really consider not speaking your opinion so much.


Says the man who thinks the KKK had a good purpose.

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If I'm not mistaken they originally wanted that moment of silence to be a school prayer, but, the courts (rightly) nixed that idea. So instead the fundies have settled on a moment of silence where religious people can pray but where everyone must stand up and honor the religous peoples' convictions.

****'em. Let them pray on their own time and not at tax payers' expense.

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****'em. Let them pray on their own time and not at tax payers' expense.

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****'em. Let them pray on their own time and not at tax payers' expense.


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****'em. Let them pray on their own time and not at tax payers' expense.


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Almost overnight the Glorious Loyalty Oath Crusade was in full flower, and Captain Black was enraptured to discover himself spearheading it. He had really hit on something. All the enlisted men and officers on combat duty had to sign a loyalty oath to get their map cases from the intelligence tent, a second loyalty oath to receive their flak suits and parachutes from the parachute tent, a third loyalty oath for Lieutenant Balkington, the motor vehicle officer, to be allowed to ride from the squadron to the airfield in one of the trucks. Every time they turned around there was another loyalty oath to be signed.They signed a loyalty oath to get their pay from the finance officer, to obtain their PX supplies, to have their hair cut by the Italian barbers.

To Captain Black, every officer who supported his Glorious Loyalty Oath Crusade was a competitor, and he planned and plotted twenty-four hours a day to keep one step ahead. He would stand second to none in his devotion to country. When other officers had followed his urging and introduced loyalty oaths of their own, he went them one better by making every son of a ***** who came to his intelligence tent sign two loyalty oaths, then three, then four; then he introduced the pledge of allegiance, and after that "The Star-Spangled Banner," one chorus, two choruses, three choruses, four choruses. Each time Captain Black forged ahead of his competitors, he swung upon them scornfully for their failure to follow his example. Each time they followed his example, he retreated with concern and racked his brain for some new strategem that would enable him to turn upon them scornfully again.

Without realizing how it had come about, the combat men in the squandron discovered themselves dominated by the administrators appointed to serve them. They were bullied, insulted, harassed and shoved about all day long by one after the other. When they voiced objection, Captain Black replied that people who were loyal would not mind signing all the loyalty oaths they had to. To anyone who questioned the effectiveness of the loyalty oaths, he replied that people who really did owe allegiance to their country would be proud to pledge it as often as he forced them to. And to anyone who questioned the morality, he replied that "The Star-Spangled Banner" was the greatest piece of music ever composed. The more loyalty oaths a person signed, the more loyal he was; to Captain Black it was as simple as that, and he had Corporal Kolodny sign hundreds with his name each day so that he could always prove he was more loyal than anyone else.

"The important thing is to keep them pledging," he explained to his cohorts. "It doesn't matter whether they mean it or not. That's why they make little kids pledge allegiance even before they know what 'pledge' and 'allegiance' mean."

--Joseph Heller
p. 122-123 of Catch-22


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Says the man who thinks the KKK had a good purpose.


What!?

I remember reading where Slowwy said something about the KKK being initially a good thing, but I thought he was talking in the context of that in of itself, being a misperception.

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Catch 22 is such a great book.

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How can you pledge allegiance to 2 differnt things.

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What like "I pledge alliegence to God and to the Queen"?

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Well as the queen is of course divinley chosen they are the same thing

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Oh yeah. Good point.

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Yes we are literally 1 nation( well maybe 4) under God

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Sickening isn't it.

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The best bit is the defender of the faith tag. How ironic is that.

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Richardson already lets Muslims out of class for an hour a day to practice their faith.
Allowing the Pledge and a Moment of Silence, is not out of line.
No one HAS to do either.

Of course, the ACLU is worried that someone MIGHT get hassled if they don't partake.
WTG, ACLU! Worry about the maybe's, baby.


Che, stick it.
KKK was needed more for the instigating, carpet-bagging, damned Yankees than anything.
I'll stand by that opinion.

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I've been to school, kids get bullied for anything they do that's different from the 'norm'. I'm sure that's true the world over.

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So your inclination would have to be to allow nothing.

Way to take a stand, Mike.

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I wonder if Jesus would agree with your position on the KKK, Slowwy...

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I would not allow pledges in schools. That's a stand.

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Indivisible my arse. When the revolution comes, and Austin secedes from Texas, it won't be indivisible any more.

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Che, stick it.
KKK was needed more for the instigating, carpet-bagging, damned Yankees than anything.
I'll stand by that opinion.


Yeah, damn instigating Yankees. How dare they try to help those uppity slaves get their freedom!

I never expected you to write something as ****ing idiotic as that.

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Then haul all the Muslim's asses back into class.
Stand on that, Mike.

And Sava, shut the fuk up.
Even Jesus Christ would find Carpet Baggers a blight.

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Pledge is not the same as prayer.

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BTW, we have a large muslim population in Britain, and did at my school but they didn't get let out to pray. Mind you they weren't exactly very strict Muslims at least not the ones I knew.

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Che, stick it.
KKK was needed more for the instigating, carpet-bagging, damned Yankees than anything.
I'll stand by that opinion.


I can't believe this is your opinion on the Ku Klux Klan.

 
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