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MrFun is offline MrFun
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Rotweilers, dobermans, and pit bulls, OH MY!! Got spare money?

Every day I go to my internship job on campus, I walk to the place from my apartment -- it's a ten minute walk, no biggie.

However, a couple of weeks ago, I found out that a neighbor (house owner) on the same side our student apartment buildings are on, owns this medium sized pit bull.

The house and dog owner does not have any fence and the pit bull is not restrained in anyway. Me and the pit bull got "acquianted" for the first time a couple of weeks ago.

I was walking home from work, and he came running up to six inches away from me, barking loudly. I got a heart attack -- I did not see him coming.

He could have bit my leg off he wanted to, but for some reason, he stopped at the edge of the yard next to the sidewalk, without attacking me -- just scaring the sh*t out of me.

So now, I walk across the street from that place, figuring the dog was only guarding its "territory." But then a few days ago, some neighbor kid was walking opposite direction from me, and I asked him if he knew the dog and its owner(s). The kid said that Major -- the pit bull -- would lick you to death before biting you.

I'm not taking this kid's word for it -- I'm just going to walk past the house on the opposite side of the street.

So, are there any Apolytoners who would like to share any encounters they have had with a doberman, pit bull, or rotweiler?
Or, are you an owner of one of these breeds? Owner or not, what is your opinion about these three breeds?

I think they can be potentially more dangerous than other breeds -- call it survival instinct, prejudice, or whatever, but I want to stay alive and well.

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I soooo support the German ban on this breeds (and some others!). After being bitten by a dog as a small child, I have a pretty bad fear for these... especially scary when a big dog just shows up two metres in front of me... gee.

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That's nothing -- two meters!? HA!

This pit bull came within six inches of me!!!!!!!!!

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Six inches, well, I may have a heart attack then .

I should mention that over here, dogs never have laces (ties, or whatever the rope is called).

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We call it a leash, usually in this country.

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Burn them all!!

Seriously, I cant stand them, and besides, its cruel imo to breed dogs that are different from the way they should be evolutionarily speaking. Not so much of a problem with the wolf-like dogs, but what about the poodles and sausage dogs ?

Why do people insist on owning them anyway?

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I like other breeds of dogs -- I'm just weary of the three breeds in my thread's title.

BUT, there was this doberman my best friend's aunt had. She had this cool country home that he and I would house sit when his aunt and husband would be on vacation somewhere.

That doberman was friendly, and rarely if ever, barked.



If I find out that an Apolytoner secretly had this pit bull placed near where I live . . . . .

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Wolf dogs are great, even with my hate of dogs. They look beautiful, are very clever, and really faithful friends. Just cool.

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These vicious animals are a great risk, I was bit as a kid, as was my 5 year old brother only recently.

We have to rely on intensive training and, fundamentally, it boils down to the owner to train and look after these pets, and the quality of that training will obviously vary immensely. From a public safety point of view, that is unsatisfactory, and besides, no matter how good the training or the pedigree, these animals will always be the wolf/hunter/killer just under the surface, and that is not hard to bring out, especially in packs.

This is one risk to people we can eliminate, and pet dogs in my mind pose a greater risk to children than terrorists.

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Solver: Great friends that are lethal, efficient killers just under the surface. Its like getting married to a sociopath.

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I strongly prefer my half-toy poodle, half-bichon to these big dogs. He's pretty vicious when he is trying to hunt grasshoppers though!

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So, are there any Apolytoners who would like to share any encounters they have had with a doberman, pit bull, or rotweiler?
Yes. I had the pleasure of a Doberman's company for over 10 years before cancer took her from me.

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Dogs are generally excellent judges of character, or the lack thereof...

In one place I lived in San Diego a while back, my next door neighbor had a pit bull who thought it was my lap puppy. It was rather entertaining to see those sad puppy-dog eyes (it was fully grown) asking if it could curl up in my lap.

I've had dobies run up to me to check me out, but they just wanted to make friends and get petted. I have no fear of dogs, and I've been around them enough to have a clue as to how not to appear hostile or threatening to them, so I've never had a problem with any trying to bite me other than for play.

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I've always been terrified of dogs, I guess they can pick up confidence or loathing.

Either way, we have to pick up the crap.

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Solver: Great friends that are lethal, efficient killers just under the surface. Its like getting married to a sociopath.



Yep, which is why I support bans on these big and potentially dangerous breeds. Generally, I believe that breeds that can harm a fully-grown man should be banned. Besides, laws about having dogs on leashes, etc, should be really enforced! Even the smallest of dogs can give a 2 years old playing in the sandbox a shock.

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Small dogs have the pack hunter instinct the same as any. I dont fancy my chances against a dozen small dogs, my lil brother could be taken down by two or three!

Hence, the only dogs should be the natural breeds imo. And human populations should be protected from them.

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I don't like any of the bull terriers, but that's just because they're ugly as sin. They look like the hind quarters of a rinocerus.

Dobies and rots and mastiffs I think are very beautiful dogs. I am not down with the cropping of dobie ears and tails though. That should be outlawed. If they're not being bread for dog fights (which are illegal) then there's no useful reason to cut off part of the dog.

Bunnygrrl is afraid of dogs (hell, she's afraid of everything). If she can get to know it, she's okay, but strange dogs scare her very badly. Strange dogs also make me nervous, since you never know if it's going to bite. Frankly, people who don't keep their dogs fenced or on a leash around me are in danger of their dogs getting kicked or maced if they charge me (unless I can tell the dog isn't hostile). Responsible owners don't let their dogs run loose.

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Small dogs have the pack hunter instinct the same as any. I dont fancy my chances against a dozen small dogs, my lil brother could be taken down by two or three!


Well, just how often do you meet a dozen dogs? I just want to feel safe knowing that any dog I can meet can't harm me. If a small doggie attacked me, I would be able to harm it, or at least outrun it. Big dogs, though, only well-trained men stand a chance.

So, get rid of biggies.

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Dogs are generally excellent judges of character, or the lack thereof...


Nice troll attempt, Johnny Reb.


The doberman of my best friend's aunt that I talked about in the last post -- she liked me well enough.

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I've got a small 'snappy' (ie noisy) Patterdale Terrier, and it's amazing to notice the difference when my dog owning friends come around and when the guys with no/ and or bad experience of dogs come calling.

What happens is, Naz (my dog) has a quick bark and growl at the new vistitor, invariably if he's a dog owner he'll just laugh, give Naz a stroke and a play fight and they'll get on fine, but as soon as someone starts looking scared, waving their arms about and shouting, well Naz starts having a bit a fun with them!

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Around age 14, I was skateboarding down the street in my neighborhood, coming home from a local comic book store that had networked computers where my friends and I would play Doom. I was passing a man that I recognized from the neighborhood, but I did not know his name. We gave each other that acquaintance nod, and the man told me to watch out, there were some wild dogs running around. About a block further, I heard barking from one of the backyards. A dog came running towards me at full speed. I was startled, but instinctively flipped up my board to defend myself. I shouted at the dog to stop, heel, but it continued its charge. As it lunged toward me, I smacked it across the head with my skateboard, sending it into the grass. The dog was stunned, shook it's head, and took off into another backyard.

I never saw the beast again.

That's my only encounter with a dog... it wasn't one of the breesds Mr.Fun mentioned. In fact, my cousin and my aunt and uncle each have a pit bull. They are the nicest dogs I've ever known. The key is to have them trained from birth by professional breeders. IMO, such dangerous breeds should only by legally bred and sold by professional dog trainers or breeders because they can be dangerous weapons in the wrong hands.

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I would still like to know if an Apolytoner had this pit bull placed near where I live . . . . .

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I would still like to know if an Apolytoner had this pit bull placed near where I live . . . . .

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great, just great . . . . . .

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I have a fear of dogs, but that's only because even the smallest ones could kill me.

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I have a fear of dogs, but that's only because even the smallest ones could kill me.
How alergic are you to animal dander?

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I soooo support the German ban on this breeds (and some others!). After being bitten by a dog as a small child, I have a pretty bad fear for these... especially scary when a big dog just shows up two metres in front of me... gee.

I am exactly in the same situation.

Needless to say, I'd favor a "strong ban" of these beasts. Those should be deemed illegal weapons which should be destroyed on sight.

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How alergic are you to animal dander?


Put me into a small room with a dog, I'll be dead in an hour.

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They can be scary if they start getting to you. But they can smell fear, don't show it. Be like the man who just ate the dogs puppies and is looking for more dog meat to satisfy your stomach. What ever you do, don't run away. It will attack you if you do that.. but I guess you knew that already.

If it attacks you, go for the eyes. Every living thing submits under the eye attack. Push them in. Also, if it really starts biting you, if you can, kick it into it's stomach hard. That will kill the dog, but if you're in big danger, you can do that too. Don't waive your arms in front of it, it will bite them. Be careful about three things with dogs and other animals as well. Your nuts, your neck/throat and your face. Other body parts can take a beating without you being forever injured for 100% certainty. Also it will most likely give you the time needed to kill the SOB before it kills you.

So, to put it in short, the sore spots of dogs are their stomachs (nothing protecting, they die from it), eyes (you get the idea, it hurts and they can die from it). Don't try to go for the neck, since they are strong animals and neck built like bricks. If you go for the neck, they'll likely start shaking and get your arm and bite so hard your bones will crush and you can't finish the job.

DO NOT fall, be on your feet, if you're downed, you're toast. Learn how to use your adrenaline rush to your benefit, so you won't freeze and let the animal take you 6 feet under. You're most likely to kill the bugger if you control your fear and go for the kill, protecting your neck/throat, nuts and face. If you kick, kick HAAAARD. If you kick too little, it will only catch your leg, and with the pwoer it has, it will take you down and you're toast. Go for the homerun, penalty kick. But only if it attacks you, otherwise leave the creature alone.

After this, you go to the guys apartment and kick his ass too. Look fast for everything expensive, and start throwing his butt to them to make maximum effect. As for the final climax, you can go back outside, carry the dead dog inside on your shoulders (just like in robin hood) and drop it to his table. Steal his money.

 
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