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Drake Tungsten is offline Drake Tungsten
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well sorry english is not my first languange.


I know... Turkish is.

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no unlike you i have a langauge of my own, lasted 5.000 years too.
you just copy copy copy and die, die ,die

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English is just as old as Greek, both being descended from Indo-European and all. Our language has just evolved a bit more, mainly because we've been out kicking ass and taking names worldwide while you've been stuck on your shitty peninsula, kissing Turkish ass, reeking of feta cheese and wistfully remembering the days, thousands of years ago, when your country was actually worth something.

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engliosh is nothing without french
french is nothing withoutlatin
latin is nothing without greek


see redneck?

now go **** your cow.

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and greece is worth plenty. i dont expect a redneck as you to know

your country isnt worth 1/1000000 of greece.


and brace yourself for the next attack you pieace of ****

cheers
jesus, the ignorance

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Since when was Greek any sort of influence on Latin? You might want to study your linguistics a little more.

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latin derives from greek to a very large extend.

of course you have, as an american, nothing
not even english is yours so dont try to defend latin.

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latin derives from greek to a very large extend.


Prove it. The Romans stole a lot of things from the Greeks, but I don't think language was one of them.

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it was based to a large extend to greek.

and stop pestering me little redneck. you are wort nothing, you can demand nothing, if you were italian or someone with history id gladly discuss it

but with you?
you dont even have your own langauge
so piss off and wait for the attacks

worthless piuece of scum.

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it was based to a large extend to greek.


Can't prove it, can you? I did a quick Google search just in case, but I didn't turn up any evidence that Latin is derived from Greek either. Sorry.

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to a large extend based on greek. there are two schools of though
once says that it is derived
the other that it is not but heavily based on greek

eitherway

go away unhistorical worthleess pest,.

develop a langauge of your own and then mabybe youre worth a bit to speak to the likes of me.

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Yes -- the fact that posted historical facts/summaries on here are not as well thought out, due to typing as I read the thread, instead of a fully drawn-out report, means I will unintentionally leave out other information.


Well, just wanted to break the anti-Southern rant .

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develop a langauge of your own and then mabybe youre worth a bit to speak to the likes of me.


Funny, seeing as he posts this in American English .

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I hate to break in to all this mudslinging, but I am finding numerous contradictory theories on the origins of the name 'KKK'. My source was a very old one, Sir Authur Conan Doyle. Perhaps the KKK had a vested interest in suppressing such a vile start to their movement?

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Man, why did I have to actually look at this thread? For a moment there I was under the blissful illusion that I actually got over seventy meaningful responses, as opposed to paiktis attacking western europe for a page and a half...
Sorry I wasn't here to reply, folks. My computer went totally whack-nuts last night for reasons beyond my limited comprehension.
Anyway, I think it's safe to say that the movie was NOT historically accurate. The government didn't give forty acres and a mule to any black people, even the Union volunteers they actually promised them to, let alone every freed slave in the south. Also, if I were one of those black militiamen at the end of the movie, I don't think I would have run screaming without firing a shot the moment the guys in white rode in. I'm terrible at strategy, but it seems to me that charging on horseback head-on, in formation, four abreast through city streets with no room to maneuver, against a vastly superior force on foot, the KKK were actually sitting ducks in that situation. At least a dozen men in the militias had a clear field of fire, against enemies who essentially blocked out all but four of their men, who were firing in the air for some damnfool reason, apparently not realizing that their bullets would come down at the same speed as they flew up, killing their compatriots in the long column behind them. A few shots and you'd have the streets barricaded with dead horses and men, and the rear guard would have no choice but to try and jump over them at the speed they were moving. A few more shots after that, the street's a dead end of dead or dying flesh. Move a few troops through the alleys to make a similar mess from ambush throughout the lines, and you have total slaughter MTO. But no, these being "ig'nant ne-groes," they run from laughably outgunned enemies for fear of their scary laundry clothing. Honestly...

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"Them nothern niggers sho' is crazy!"

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I personally liked the part where the freed slaves line up for handouts, and each of them receives a bag of seed corn, a hoe...and a silk top hat, for some reason. Maybe Mr. Stoneman didn't think they could make it as free men without fashionable headgear, idunno. The shot of the guy with a stupid uncle tom grin on his face, an Abe Lincoln hat on his head, and an armful of farming tools is just a masterpiece of bigoted surrealism.

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latin derives from greek to a very large extend.

of course you have, as an american, nothing
not even english is yours so dont try to defend latin.


Latin was influenced by Greek but it remains in a totally different language group from Greek.

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I personally liked the part where the freed slaves line up for handouts, and each of them receives a bag of seed corn, a hoe...and a silk top hat, for some reason. Maybe Mr. Stoneman didn't think they could make it as free men without fashionable headgear, idunno. The shot of the guy with a stupid uncle tom grin on his face, an Abe Lincoln hat on his head, and an armful of farming tools is just a masterpiece of bigoted surrealism.


Masterpiece of bigoted surrealism -- someone finally found the perfect, concise description of Birth of a Nation.

And this statement of "bayonet rule" that a lot of white Southerners use today, to describe Radical Reconstruction? The "bayonet rule" is just another inaccurate portrayal of a complicated period. The problem was not that the Southern states were excessively policed by the Union army, but that too many soldiers were too quickly de-mobilized after the Civil War to be of much legitimate help in the defeated South.

Oh and Imran -- I never hated white Southerners, nor blamed them for all the problems from Reconstruction.
But if you insist on sitting on my shoulder, harping at me every now and then . . . . .

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Yeah... I guess I missed the thread jack last night...

Stay on topic... or don't bother to post.

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Yeah... I guess I missed the thread jack last night...

Stay on topic... or don't bother to post.


You're not slipping or anything, are ya, Ming?

Where were you last night when I was trying to hold off those thread jackers all by myself?

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The black face soldiers make me crack up. Didn't 'the flower of Southern womanhood commits suicide' trope get reused in 'Last of the Mohicans'?

I have a real problem with a work of genius like 'Birth of a Nation'- how do I enjoy something I know is a travesty of history, and a glorification of a band of thugs, but that at the same time represents a peak in early film-making? I have the same dilemma with T.S. Eliot's poetry- can't stand his politics, but like his verse (although not necessarily the sly, anti-semitic bits).

And with Louis Ferdinand Celine- his politics were even worse than Griffiths', but 'Journey to the End of the Night' is a classic of 20th Century literature.

It would be much easier if 'Birth of a Nation' were more like 'Red Dawn'.

http://www.tngenweb.org/giles/afro-...tory/birth.html

If you liked 'Birth of a Nation' then I recommend 'Battleship Potemkin' and 'End of the Romanoff Empire'.

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Potemkin rules.

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Potemkin rules.


Careful... people will say you're a godless atheistical commie. And they won't be complimenting you...

I like 'Que Viva Mexico!' too, and 'Alexander Nevski'. I first saw 'Nevski' when I was about 6 or 7, and just remember all those terrifying metal helmed Teutonic knights staring across the frozen lakes appearing in my nightmares for weeks afterwards.

I like it when Ivan the Terrible breaks into colour too.

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Paiktis - your ass is gone for a week, enjoy your vacation.

I will read the thread and see if anyone else will join you.

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Uhm, MtG, far be it from me to tell you how to do your job (especially twice in one week in threads on the same topic), but, uhm . . .

*cg points at Ming's post then hides.

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If he didn't do it... I would have anyway after reviewing the thread in more detail...

And MtG... please do your paperwork... I noticed you haven't posted Alberts restriction yet

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Yeah, somebody else missed it, because the complaint email just got sent.

And I was gonna send drake off for a week too...

Guess they both get to slide.

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So let 'em both slide, or toast 'em both?

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Well, as long as Ming's okay with it, toast 'em both. It was a good thread.

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Thanks for the support, che.

Hell, I know I deserve it though. Do with me as you will.

 
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