29-08-2003 18:17									#1
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The biggest problem i find with CTP2 is that your allies can start fighting with each other. I know nothing about programing so i put the question to those who do. Can CTP2 be modified for 3 party involvment in diplomacy.

THe most simple way i can think of is a request, that the country you select increase regard to another you select like the brake aggrement one. Their compliance would be determined by how much they hate the other nation and how much they like you.

	30-08-2003 19:02									#2
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That would work except that we can't add any new proposal types. When the source code is released it should be possible to rectify this (assuming that someone can figure out how to do it).

	01-09-2003 18:04									#3
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Well i would have thought you could modify the brake agrement from another mod,

	02-09-2003 04:05									#4
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Gaiastate:

A while ago I played around with break agreement for Diplomod (and later SAP). I can't remember the exact reason I scrapped it, but I think there was a bug in it which I couldn't fix (hard-coded in the exe).

	02-09-2003 05:32									#5
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There's also a problem with the SLIC 'ConsiderNewProposal' function. We won't really be able to attack the diplomacy side of things very effectively until MrOgre finishes uncommenting the source code.

	02-09-2003 05:54									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Peter Triggs There's also a problem with the SLIC 'ConsiderNewProposal' function. We won't really be able to attack the diplomacy side of things very effectively until MrOgre finishes uncommenting the source code.

I wish he'd hurry up. Anyone got an idea of timeframe?

	02-09-2003 06:16									#7
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Did you catch this post from st_swithin:

quote: He must still be in Australia visiting with DinoDoc. Bastard!! (I can say that because he can't come here and kill me right now.)

Track him down and buy him a beer or something. I'll stand a few rounds if he ever comes to Oxford.

	29-10-2003 01:00									#8
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A little *bump* now the source is out.

	29-10-2003 20:45									#9
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Hmm i agree gaiastate, 3rd party intervention if two of your allies declaure war is a great idea, I think this was possible in SMAC but i carnt remember its been that long since i played it. Also like Locutus says the source code is out now... so this can be done.... right?

	29-10-2003 20:58									#10
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somewhere in the chat they said proposals are enumerated. I have no idea really what that means but people seemed happy. maybe it means you can add new ones...

	29-10-2003 21:10									#11
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no enumerated doesnt mean you can add new ones, it means they will be listed seperatly or something simular

	27-05-2004 18:11									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Glen 3rd party intervention if two of, your allies declare war is a great idea, I think this was possible in SMAC

You have the option to ask "Please make peace with civ X". I think it works only if the civ you ask is the one who attacked, but I am not sure. There could be also added as an option "Please ask civ Y to make peace with me (as in stop attacking me); I will give you that and that if they will make peace with me in maximum 5 turns"

	27-05-2004 18:21									#13
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Mihai

you have bumped a thread form alost 7 monthes ago this can be an anyoing thing to most people. The only exseption to this is if you are implementing this.

But I will let you off because you are new

	27-05-2004 20:04									#14
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New? Only on this forum.
Take a look in my profile.
I just didn't post here for a couple of years.

And no, I have no programer skills. But I am full of words, err... I mean full of ideas.

	27-05-2004 20:17									#15
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I think Mihai had a good suggestion. I'd like to see more diplomacy options that can ask for the AI to behave as opposed to just one on one deals. Like "make peace with X" or "ally to defend X" or "ally to attack X" or "trade city Z with civ X for $/turn" for those that want to play peace and stability games


hmm maybe there should be reputation points, peace points, or credibility for those that choose not to be warmongers to balance the game and provide other options. Warmongers can conquer cities but maybe your trade and happiness increases with peace since people prefer to invest in stable peaceful places...

Also you can build credibility points so if you are attacked by a country your credibility would encourage other countries to defend (or liberate) your civ...

	27-05-2004 21:07									#16
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quote: Originally posted by E Also you can build credibility points so if you are attacked by a country your credibility would encourage other countries to defend (or liberate) your civ...

And as a thank for the liberation the civ who helped so selfless can keep all the liberated cities and of course all the oil.

-Martin

	27-05-2004 21:31									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Mihai New? Only on this forum. Take a look in my profile. I just didn't post here for a couple of years. And no, I have no programer skills. But I am full of words, err... I mean full of ideas.

New to this forum is what I meant.

Yes we need programmes but we also need artists, translators and idea men.

quote: And as a thank for the liberation the civ who helped so selfless can keep all the liberated cities and of course all the oil.

I also like the idea of three way diplomacy. SMAC did three way diplomacy if I think right you could ask an AI player to stop attacking your “friends” .

But liberation is a promising idea.

	27-05-2004 23:29									#18
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quote: Originally posted by The Big Mc you have bumped a thread form alost 7 monthes ago this can be an anyoing thing to most people. The only exseption to this is if you are implementing this.

On the contrary, I think it's much better to bump an old thread than start a new one which only causes everything to be rehashed and wastes time.

	28-05-2004 07:28									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Martin Gühmann And as a thank for the liberation the civ who helped so selfless can keep all the liberated cities and of course all the oil. -Martin

Keep all the oil but the gas prices go up!

A third party trade agreement of sharing resources or dividing cities would be cool too ( Civ X you take cities A,B.C and resources D, E, F and I'l take the rest!)

	28-05-2004 14:06									#20
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quote: Originally posted by The Big Mc New to this forum is what I meant.

When I was really new on Apolyton site, I bumped up a 2 months old thread on Off Topic

quote: Yes we need programmes but we also need artists, translators and idea men .

I am your man!

quote: Warmongers can conquer cities but maybe your trade and happiness increases with peace since people prefer to invest in stable peaceful places...

Good idea - a steadly increase of trade income (maybe with a cap) for civ that are at peace. If you went at war of just cancel the Peace treaty, trade income drop to base value.

	28-05-2004 18:20									#21
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quote: Yes we need programmes but we also need artists

I am pretty experienced with Photoshop, so im here waiting for some tasks to be assigned

Also i have an infinite amount of ideas, but i feel the source code project is in too early a stage to post them at the moment

P.S. Why limit this to 3 way diplomacy ?