21-01-2004 17:23									#91
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Sorry - it is 9-6 from the Python warrior.

Will use something more visible next time.

	21-01-2004 21:21									#92
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Picky ba$tard

Beta I usually try and use red since it seems to contrast with most of the colors in CIV.

Just a tip my friend.

	21-01-2004 22:01									#93
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I like A as an initial citysite as well. And its probably the site of the FP as well. correct?

Helplessly corrupt at the begining but two bonus tiles to work.

Then depending upon CoD either fill in behind or pop so cities right up on there border.

We need to get some of those spice feilds anyway, It s only fair.

	22-01-2004 02:52									#94
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I will have a good look at the save tonight.

But first glance...

Consider moving A one tile North.
It will guarantee us a silk luxery. We cannot allow CoD to have sole ownership of those silks.

But I will have a closer look later.

	22-01-2004 04:32									#95
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We cannot move it north without first clearing the jungle. And that will take time.

I would rather build at A and build in cultural improvements.

OTOH, we probably would have some time to do the clearing if we settled D and F first.

And btw - I think D could be placed one tile 7 from where I have it. It will still allow the irrigation cross-over, but also keeps the northern cities in a nice defensive 3-tile spacing. And the final benefit is that it opens up the site 1-1-1 from E if we wanted to drop another city in there.

As to the F/P, I was thinkinging slightly to the west and south - to pick up the future cities on the peninsula. But that requires another, and expanded city plan.

	22-01-2004 05:49									#96
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Moving Site A north 1 tile, will place the city on the jungle square.
I thought we agreed that placing cities on jungle would be fine ?

The current Site A is grassland, so it shouldn't be a problem getting a road to it.


Anyway... I am at work now and dont have the save to check.
But I have been doodling with our maps.




Notice...

COD has used the same rings as us ...4 tile & 9 tile rings

The 15 tile ring is where our cities meet.
But given they have better territory than us, I think we can argue that we want a border that favours us.

Moving site A 1 tile north (In our 17 ring, in their 14 tile ring) will guarantee us 1 silk.
Site A per Beta's map will need to have border expansion 2 times before we get silks. And even then, CoD could snatch it off us with smart city placement.

Regs

	22-01-2004 07:49									#97
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H_E - you do realize that in C3C - hey - we are not playing Conquests. Beta - wake up you bozo.

Ok - let me rethink the city sites with PTW in mind.

(you really have to wonder - don't you.)

	22-01-2004 08:21									#98
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Ok - now that Beta has figured out which version of Civ3 we are playing with - he has revised his city plan - in RED !!!

1. A as per H_E's suggestion

2 and 3. B and C. Maybe C first.

4. D.

5. E

6. F

7 G.

I will now also post a pic of the peninsula and this area - so we can discuss F/P siting.

	22-01-2004 08:24									#99
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I got to agree with H_E here, build it one square north and make sure we claim the silk.

Also making a city IN jungle is fine, you actually agreed to that a while back Beta.

If it will help our cause that is one tile we HAVE to then forest in the Tundra.

The cultural Improvements will be tough due to corruption, lets get the silk benefit a lot sooner than that, and if we build anything it should be walls->courthouse->FP or just walls->FP. And at the high corruption rate it will take FOREVER either way we go.

	22-01-2004 08:27									#100
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Opps, crosspost

Thanks for moving the city north.

I still like the site as well 9,9,9,9 of the CoD warrior depending upon negotiatins.

Gold hill and tons of silk to work, after the FP that will be a dam fine site!

	27-01-2004 05:38									#101
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MADAGASCAR

OK where do we settle. Here is the island:

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Be...-Madagascar.JPG

First question: one or two cities.

If two - then the northen and southern points.

If one - then :

a) northen point
b) horse tile
c)tile south of the horse tile

Please comment.

	27-01-2004 06:34									#102
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2 cities.

Northern and southern points.

	01-02-2004 20:19									#103
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Just when you thought we had run out of names...

I did some research to come up with the following:

Mandrill
Barbary Ape
Capuchin
Howler
Bonobo
Siamang
Tamarin
Marmoset
Patas

That should do us for awhile.

	02-02-2004 16:23									#104
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Just screwing around with some dots...

You can see a FP attempt on our west peninsula


A quick Dot attempt



Here is a blank map, if people want to have a go...

Blank Map

	13-02-2004 18:23									#105
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OK - Beta forgot to mention that that we got Pythons world map last turn (for our world map)

This gave us our entire continent

Our Continent 650bc


Here are the important bits

Monty Python
12 tightly packed cities (3 ring & 6 ring)
3 sources of Wine
No Iron
No Horses

Cake or Death
10 cities. Expansion north was cut off by Python. (4 ring & 9 ring)
Has 3 cities in unproductive jungle.
2 sources of Wine
6 sources of silks
No Iron
1 source of Horses

Monkey
11 cities, with a few settlers enroute. (4 ring & 9 ring)
1 source of silk
3 sources of Ivory
No Iron
1 source of Horses (On our island)



Total of our continent

Wine (Controlled by Python & CoD)
Silks (Controlled by CoD & Monkey)
Ivory (Controlled by Monkey)

No Sources of Iron ANYWHERE

2 sources of horse (CoD & Monkey each)

Last edited by Hot_Enamel on 13-02-2004 at 18:34