01-09-2003 08:54									#1
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Kody says:
hello you around today?
Voltaire says:
Hello
Voltaire says:
Indeed I am here now...
Voltaire says:
Busy preparing for school again this fall, that's why I have not been online lately.
Kody says:
ahh okay
Kody says:
well that does explain things
Kody says:
I made a simulator single player game for our cities and lands
Kody says:
so it replicates all our cities and units and terrian
Kody says:
there's a few differences, like tech, but since our tech is tied up with the drones, and also with any other factions we meet.
Voltaire says:
how accurate will the simulation be in terms of its ability to predict our development?
Kody says:
basically everything except tech, and B drones
Kody says:
so money, industry, and unit moves
Kody says:
with the B drones they're impossible to predict
Voltaire says:
have you posted the simulation?
Kody says:
yep
Kody says:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=95758
Voltaire says:
thank you
Kody says:
you have to use the map editor every now and again
Kody says:
to adjust the tech rate, tech trading, and for other random events
Voltaire says:
this provides an interesting oppertunity to see how well we can implament Jamski's terraforming and base placement policies in-game
Kody says:
*nod*
Voltaire says:
i have been playing around with his strategy on various randomly generated maps
Voltaire says:
though it simply isn't the same
Kody says:
this won't be the same either because the tech rate will be faster due to trading
Kody says:
and also I haven't figured out how to set the amount of tech queued
Kody says:
so in the simulation you need to manually give the hive biogenetics in turn 2135
Kody says:
other than that it should be fine for at least 10 years
Kody says:
at which point the drones might start trading more techs to us.
Voltaire says:
if nothing else if will provide a rough timeline in which we can colonize our contient, and fully terraform it
Kody says:
*nod*
Voltaire says:
the tech trading will only speed such efforts up
Voltaire says:
BTW
Kody says:
I know
Voltaire says:
how are we on the SP's?
Kody says:
I lost 3 ECs last turn
Kody says:
because I didn't check for newly grown forests
Kody says:
well actually I lose 3 ECs next turn
Kody says:
but it was because of something I did this turn.
Voltaire says:
lol, not to worry, i hardly imagine the other factions are running things as efficiently as you have been
Kody says:
hrmm so far I've seen buster only lose 1 EC
Kody says:
he forgot to stockpile a couple of turns back.
Voltaire says:
any other developments i have missed?
Kody says:
well vote for next tech
Kody says:
I was hoping you were going to run the voting
Kody says:
and I'm trying to encourge people to take over certain non-critical jobs by doing them incompetantly.
Voltaire says:
opps, sorry it slipped my mind, i had a chance to speak with a few people, most notably the marshal about it, but as i mentioned have been cought up with school stuff, getting textbooks, et all
Kody says:
yeah I can understand that
Kody says:
for now just put your vote in
Kody says:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=95890
Voltaire says:
once i'm settled in, which should be by the end of this week i will be back to normal
Kody says:
cool
Voltaire says:
indeed i already have voted for mobility
Kody says:
we need to look for new members
Kody says:
maybe send word out to some of our members to be on the look out for recuits
Kody says:
I think that publically announcing just gets us more infiltrators.
Kody says:
probably tell people that if they notice anyone that likes SMAC and isn't currently in the ACDG
Voltaire says:
Well I have someone interested in the game, he is just a beginner, but I’m certain he could contribute to some mundane job if nothing else.
Kody says:
cool
Kody says:
if it's just voting and asking questions
Kody says:
then he's worthwhile
Kody says:
the people we don't want are the ones that join and never post.
Kody says:
also we need a new pravda editor
Voltaire says:
Well I expect that we will be in this current slump at least until mid-September, at that point I will speak to others I have played with if they would care to join. Most of those I know who would be interested currently are in a similar predicament as I am, getting ready for university.
Voltaire says:
Isn't Jamski interested in his old position?
Kody says:
apparently only for doing the final post
Kody says:
not the compliation
Voltaire says:
Alright, I will also look into that...
Voltaire says:
I need to speak with HongHu to see if she can take on some job...
Voltaire says:
She is rather active
Kody says:
she's currently working as a spy
Kody says:
I have her looking at the data on other players
Voltaire says:
?
Voltaire says:
Ah
Voltaire says:
Alright
Kody says:
so checking diplomancy window etc.
Kody says:
she did it the turn before the last
Voltaire says:
What other tasks do we have avaliable?
Kody says:
running polls
Voltaire says:
Since I know I can get people to do such things, if nothing else...
Kody says:
we really need an secondary diplomat if nothing else
Kody says:
to take care of the roleplaying things
Kody says:
For the drones the direct approach was better
Kody says:
because they weren't in the game for the roleplaying
Kody says:
however with the other factions, we should stress strong roleplay in our diplomatic relations
Kody says:
so that means we need someone to convert our proposals to the correct roleplaying format
Voltaire says:
I intend on handling many of the negotiations directly in the comming months, since I greatly enjoy the RP part of diplomacy
Kody says:
cool
Kody says:
I find it okay, but I don't want to divert time away from game analysis
Kody says:
not until I'm sure the hive will be able to survive a mistake or two and still be able to recover.
Voltaire says:
Well you take take your mind off of that, the Drones liking the direct aproach are perhaps better left to you, I will take care of the other factions, as for any in-game proposals they puth forth, such as tech trading, I will of course consult you.
Voltaire says:
But the behind the scenes deals will be handeled by me...
Kody says:
okay then
Voltaire says:
One factor we must take into account in this game is that we are playing against humans...
Voltaire says:
And humans can be manipulated.
Voltaire says:
We must take advantage of that...
Kody says:
*nod*
Kody says:
I'm surprised none of the other factions have found us yet
Voltaire says:
If we can get the other factions to act as we wish, then a few mistakes in our domestic policy can be recovered from.
Kody says:
also I'm starting to see a pattern with the way the drones meet people.
Kody says:
did you remember how the drones walked right into the middle of our terriority
Kody says:
before we met them
Voltaire says:
Yes
Kody says:
it appears they're doing exactly the same with that other faction
Kody says:
who has all the B's
Voltaire says:
Luck perhaps, on the part of the Drones... the did receive that transport foil from a pod if I recall.
Kody says:
apparently we were unlucky with pod pops
Voltaire says:
Which reminds me, what do you think our stance should be on the Drones making pacts with other factions?
Kody says:
we shouldn't have a stance at all
Kody says:
according to our pact document, they're free to do as they please as long as they keep us informed of their diplomatic relations
Kody says:
also if we meet any other factions.
Kody says:
we should try and sell the Drone's comm link
Kody says:
play it like if the drones are only in treaty with us.
Voltaire says:
brb
Kody says:
well since we're going to give the comm link anyway
Kody says:
I figure we might as well try and make a buck or two out of it.
Kody says:
and I bet another faction will pay a couple of ECs for the comm link
Kody says:
maybe 20ECs
Kody says:
something fairly cheap

Last edited by Vev on 01-09-2003 at 09:27

	01-09-2003 09:10									#2
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Conversation continued

Voltaire says:
Alright
Voltaire says:
I see your point
Voltaire says:
I was just about to point out that it may make the drones powerful if they trade techs with other factions
Voltaire says:
but then again those techs also become avaliable to us via the drone
Voltaire says:
*drones
Kody says:
*nod*
Kody says:
also if they don't know about our pact
Kody says:
other factions may be willing to trade techs with the drones that they wouldn't be able to trade with us
Kody says:
or we could do a comm link exchange
Kody says:
drones comm link in exchange for cycon comm link
Kody says:
actually that would be better for us
Kody says:
it would also open up more diplomancy stuff, this is after all a dipolamancy game
Kody says:
however selling the comm link for 20 ECs is also acceptable
Voltaire says:
Cannot the other factions see that we have a pact with the Drones?
Kody says:
nope
Kody says:
they can't see our diplomatic relations unless they infiltrate or pact
Voltaire says:
alright good
Kody says:
remember the pirates probably realise they might be able to find the drones themselves after a couple more years
Kody says:
so don't price the comm link frequency too highly
Kody says:
however try and get the best deal you can for it
Kody says:
so for the university... well hopefully it'll be the drones not us that meets them
Kody says:
because if we meet them they won't trust anything we do
Voltaire says:
I know
Kody says:
so we would have to give the drones their comm link
Voltaire says:
and if we can get any tech out of them now via the drones
Voltaire says:
it will serve our purposes better
Kody says:
however giving if the drones get their comm link
Kody says:
the university will wonder what diplomatic relations we're in
Voltaire says:
true
Voltaire says:
shall we inform the drones that they should not give our commlink away? or do we let them do as they please
Kody says:
as for cycon, we make the assumption they might be able to be tempted to join our side
Kody says:
we let the drones do as they please
Kody says:
I think buster is smart enough to make the right decision
Kody says:
and we would just be teaching them to suck eggs
Voltaire says:
true

Last edited by Vev on 01-09-2003 at 09:28

	01-09-2003 10:48									#3
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quote: Kody says: also we need a new Pravda editor

Maybe Allie Cove would be a good fit for this?

G.

	01-09-2003 10:50									#4
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She posted once or twice and then suddenly stopped posting.

I think she decided not to play anymore.

	01-09-2003 12:05									#5
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quote: Voltaire says: Isn't Jamski interested in his old position? Kody says: apparently only for doing the final post Kody says: not the compliation

I'm happy to keep compiling editing and publishing PRAVDA, if SOMEONE would just write ONE or TWO articles... I can't do the whole thing myself. We don't even have a cartoon for the next one If I get two or three articles, I can whip up the rest in no time.

-Jam

	01-09-2003 18:02									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Kody I think she decided not to play anymore.

Naw - I think it's just that she was overwhelmed by the Hive's industry and production capabilities

G.

	02-09-2003 03:10									#7
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I was planning to write up another article on the new Hiverian government... I never did get around to it, though, due to excessive schoolwork.

One of these days...

	02-09-2003 20:03									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Googlie Naw - I think it's just that she was overwhelmed by the Hive's industry and production capabilities G.

I think she deserves a nice private invitation from the Chairman or the deputy for giving her the post of chief editor of Pravda. Her expertise really should not be wasted. Especially considering the fact that Spamski has been ignoring his supposed duty ...