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Japher is offline Japher
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Lots of poor minorities, homeless and epidemic drug use that stimulates gang activity.


He says they are a factor... that they stimulate crime... I know that whenever I am around a poor person or a minority I get this sudden urge to start stealing and killing

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I get an urge to pre-emptively self-defend.

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Actually, I parsed that sentence as only impying that epidemic drug use stimulates gang activity, whereas being a poor minority or homeless makes you more likely to commit acts of violence.

Now, if he were to go the extra step and refute all socioeconomic theories for correlation between race, poverty, and violence then I'd ream him....

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I suggest we need a cull.

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There's a lot of violence in NE and SE and a good amount of petty street crime in NW, but somehow Metro PD can get a million dollars to combat underage drinking around all the local universities. Defining deviancy up, indeed...


Well, I'm pretty much not impacted by the violence (NW). It's amazing the block-by-block differences you have in a city with so many murders. There have been some troubling indicators that I have seen over the last couple of months, however. If I only get a glimpse, you can guess that other areas of the city are getting creamed.

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Odd. For some reason I thought of LA to be the hellhole and Washington to be a rather clean place.
Come to think of it, maybe thats because they made the goverment building in such a pretty white ... otoh ...

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Parts of Washington are pretty extreme hellholes. Parts are quite nice. The city is actually making progress in a lot of areas. From the top of my building, I can see a half dozen building cranes off in the direction of a previously bad section. The chaos is being pushed back.

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CHiacgo looks pretty rough..

Most of those are gang/drug related.

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Years ago a good friend of mine did his residency at Maryland General in downtown Baltimore. The ER part of the rotation was always interesting, especially on the weekends, and this Saturday night was no exception.

Round about midnight a woman came into the ER with cuts all over her head and arms. My friend set to work treating her wounds. A few minutes later a man comes in, also with cuts on his arms, but not as serious as the woman's. On closer examination my friend finds that this man has a bullet hole in his pants, but no corresponding wound in his leg. wtf????? Just as my freind is about to tend this man's wounds, a second man limps into the ER with a badly sprained ankle. He catches sight of the first two, and all sorts of screamin', hollerin' and carryin' on ensues. The police are called, the three parties are hauled into separate rooms, and order is restored.

Turns out that the woman was in bed with man #1. Just as they were getting, shall we say, warmed up, man #2, the woman's husband, comes home. The woman headed for the window first, still fully clothed. The first man followed her out the window, stopping just long enough to grab his pants. The husband pulled a gun and took a wild shot, hitting the pants, but not the man in them. He then followed the first two out said window, twisting his ankle when he hit the ground.

Ah, Charm City....

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I'm refraining, on the assumption that he's not claiming an innate correlation between race and violence.


Thank you for refraining. I'm being lazy. Let me clarify.

Drugs and associated gang violence, homelessness and high rates of poverty are among the reasons why Washington D.C. is the murder capital of the U.S.

I am not saying that that minorities cause crime. What I meant to say is that the population makeup of the district is comprised by a majority (60% according to the 2000 census) of African Americans and other minorities (~15%). Since those groups are disproportionately plagued by crime, STDs, drug use, violence and other social ills, the statistics are magnified when those groups compose a majority in an area. If one were to look at the crime statistics for the city, that thesis would be bourne out.

If one were to compare the statistics from D.C.'s Second Police District to another where the population is comprised mostle of minorities, like the Sixth or Seventh districts, the violent crime rates shoot up.

I am not saying that being a minority in D.C. makes you criminal. I am saying that all the problems that disproportionately effect minorities in the U.S. due to the usual "sociological factors" are amplified in the District.

On a side, and possibly irrelevant note, I'm not saying that half the city is a hellhole. There is a vibrant sense of community in the eastern half of the city that is overshadowed by the violence. Some of my friends who grew up in SE D.C. love it there and are appalled by the violence and drugs that run rampant. There are a lot of community efforts to clean up the place, but the city pays little attention to the communities in greatest need.

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Years ago a good friend of mine did his residency at Maryland General in downtown Baltimore. The ER part of the rotation was always interesting, especially on the weekends, and this Saturday night was no exception.

Round about midnight a woman came into the ER with cuts all over her head and arms. My friend set to work treating her wounds. A few minutes later a man comes in, also with cuts on his arms, but not as serious as the woman's. On closer examination my friend finds that this man has a bullet hole in his pants, but no corresponding wound in his leg. wtf????? Just as my freind is about to tend this man's wounds, a second man limps into the ER with a badly sprained ankle. He catches sight of the first two, and all sorts of screamin', hollerin' and carryin' on ensues. The police are called, the three parties are hauled into separate rooms, and order is restored.

Turns out that the woman was in bed with man #1. Just as they were getting, shall we say, warmed up, man #2, the woman's husband, comes home. The woman headed for the window first, still fully clothed. The first man followed her out the window, stopping just long enough to grab his pants. The husband pulled a gun and took a wild shot, hitting the pants, but not the man in them. He then followed the first two out said window, twisting his ankle when he hit the ground.

Ah, Charm City....


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most murders per capita right?


I know Baltimore has the most STDs per capita in the country.

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I am not saying that being a minority in D.C. makes you criminal.


Yet, for some reason, being a republican does:hmm:

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What, nobody rushing to jump on me?

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Well I am saying minorities cause crime.

You cannot deny that a higher percentage of black and hispanic minorities commit crime with regards to their population numbers as compared to whites and asians.

So take that!

Now I can't say why that happens. It could be a result of poverty and mistreatment of minorities. It could be a variety of reasons.

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stats lie: Baltimore has one of the best emergency trauma centers in the US. So what would be a murder in DC or Detroit is turned into "aggravated assault" by the hardworking, devoted doctors.


I suppose, then, that Baltimore would be #1 without the EMS

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You cannot deny that a higher percentage of black and hispanic minorities commit crime with regards to their population numbers as compared to whites and asians.
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What you can deny, however, is that simply being an ethnic minority is the reason they commit more crimes.

You might say with equal validity that "poor people commit more crimes".

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What part of Baltimore are you in? I lived in Towson.

Interesting... two of the cities in which I've lived, Memphis and Baltimore, are on the list...

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Here are the exact stats for you guys



Supposedly DC's figures may rise again, it is currently on pace to have about 325 murders this year.


What's the US average based on that method? 5-6?

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I live in College Park and it doesn't seem that bad

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What part of Baltimore are you in? I lived in Towson.

Interesting... two of the cities in which I've lived, Memphis and Baltimore, are on the list...


Towson is not in Baltimore. Towson is in Baltimore County.

I'm in Charles Village, 5 blocks from the front entrance to school.

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What are you doing there anyway?

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www.jhu.edu

eventually leading to a PhD in physics (probably in condensed matter theory)

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Is there really anything to do in physics if you don't get a PhD?

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Not in real physics, but you can always find a job with a physics degree (or almost always; times have been rough for the last couple of years).

Similar starting salaries to BEng for a physics BSc. You can go work at a telecom company or something, doing optical bench tests of the latest hardware.

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What, nobody rushing to jump on me?


Need to troll better. That's like saying that 1+1=3.

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For those libs of you trying to excuse criminal minorities:

If poverty causes crime and since incomes have risen, why haven't we seen a consistent trend of decreasing crime rates through the decades?

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I've had 2 murders right outside my door in the last 3 months. I'm moving in another week.

 
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