02-09-2003 23:15									#1
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In addition to the constant stream of ambulances and police helicopters which wake me up on occasion, there are three incidents which have occurred in the last two weeks that stick in my memory.

In reverse chronological order:

1) This morning I'm sitting in my living room when there comes a squeal of tires and a crashing sound from the front windows. Sure enough, some old guy has managed to plow into a parked truck with his raggedy-ass Chevy Malibu. The hood is completely crumpled. I go outside and ask if he's okay. He says yes (though he seems rather confused) so I go back inside. Police arrive a couple of minutes later.

2) 3 or 4 days ago, some crazy guy was walking down the same street, right in front of my house, screaming to himself, with his t-shirt half on and half off. A wailing of sirens and all of a sudden there's two (2!) ambulances and a police car blocking off the street on both sides of him. The paramedic talks to him nicely and he gets into the back of the ambulance quietly.

3) A week and a half ago, I'm just getting ready for bed (around 11:30) when I hear loud talking coming from the alleyway behind my house. A woman's voice is saying, from the fire escape of the third floor of the rowhouse next to mine: "I know you in there, sleepin' with my husband. I want you to know that if he sleeping with you while he my husband then he be sleepin' with somebody else when he yours. That's why I'm divorcin' him. I'm tryin' to help you, but you don't even have the decency to come to the door!" and so on for ten minutes or so. Somebody else screams at her that it's late and the neighbours are trying to sleep. After another five minutes of ranting she gives up, gets in her car and drives out of the alley, past my window.

Not to mention how some guy tried to pick up my mother when she was here last month (again, on the same block)...

	02-09-2003 23:19									#2
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Ah, Baltimore....

	02-09-2003 23:38									#3
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You have a fun time looking out of the window, he?

	02-09-2003 23:38									#4
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most murders per capita right?

	02-09-2003 23:40									#5
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I think Washington, DC still leads in murders per capita.

	02-09-2003 23:40									#6
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3rd

Washington was 1st, and IIRC Detroit was second.

But we're close. ~40 per hundred thousand per annum as compared to DC's 43...

	02-09-2003 23:41									#7
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Of course, as I'm used to ~1.6 both those numbers seem rather high...

	02-09-2003 23:42									#8
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40 murders per 100.000 people???

	02-09-2003 23:42									#9
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Baltimore alone has about 60% of the murders per year that all of Canada does.

	02-09-2003 23:43									#10
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Here are the exact stats for you guys



Supposedly DC's figures may rise again, it is currently on pace to have about 325 murders this year.

	02-09-2003 23:44									#11
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Those are different than the ones I saw. Are those from the FBI's uniform crime stats?

	02-09-2003 23:45									#12
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The worst year Baltimore ever had was 350+

	02-09-2003 23:46									#13
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stats lie: Baltimore has one of the best emergency trauma centers in the US. So what would be a murder in DC or Detroit is turned into "aggravated assault" by the hardworking, devoted doctors.

	02-09-2003 23:46									#14
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Last year Sweden had 219 murders per 9 million

EDIT: actually only 98 cases of "lethal violence"

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	02-09-2003 23:46									#15
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Canada had ~450 with a population of 30 million....

	02-09-2003 23:47									#16
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Here's a thought....................get out now!




Actually, given some of your political views, you need to hang around there and take in the ambiance some more


I thought you lived in Mount Royal ?

	02-09-2003 23:47									#17
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark stats lie: Baltimore has one of the best emergency trauma centers in the US. So what would be a murder in DC or Detroit is turned into "aggravated assault" by the hardworking, devoted doctors.

We're number 1! We're number 1!

	02-09-2003 23:47									#18
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Canada

	02-09-2003 23:47									#19
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I took the figures from http://www.safestreetsdc.com/ which google gave me.

	02-09-2003 23:48									#20
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This has been a really bad year for murders in DC. It seems like there's lots more dealing (the panhandlers are more aggressive and abusive than normal) and there seems to be a lot of street gang turf wars.

	02-09-2003 23:51									#21
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I think we had a murder last year (latino) so that would put us at 0.5/100000.

	02-09-2003 23:56									#22
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Any reason why Washington is so much worse than LA?

	02-09-2003 23:59									#23
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I purposely picked a quiet neighborhood with old people when I moved in. Old people are quite so I can always get my bueaty sleep

I do worry about who will move in when the old people die off though. My neighborhood is getting worse and worse. As most neighborhoods on the east side of Las Vegas. Actually many neighborhoods in my city are getting worse and worse. I figure in 20 to 25 years I'll move outside the city and semi-retire.

	03-09-2003 00:53									#24
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CHiacgo looks pretty rough..

	03-09-2003 00:55									#25
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quote: Originally posted by DanS This has been a really bad year for murders in DC. It seems like there's lots more dealing (the panhandlers are more aggressive and abusive than normal) and there seems to be a lot of street gang turf wars.

There's a lot of violence in NE and SE and a good amount of petty street crime in NW, but somehow Metro PD can get a million dollars to combat underage drinking around all the local universities. Defining deviancy up, indeed....

	03-09-2003 00:58									#26
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quote: Originally posted by DanielXY Any reason why Washington is so much worse than LA?

Lots of poor minorities, homeless and epidemic drug use that stimulates gang activity.

I don't know the exact breakdown, but N.W. D.C.'s violent crime rate is a bit lower than S.E. and N.E. D.C.

	03-09-2003 00:59									#27
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Why does being poor or being a minority give an excuse for committing crime?

	03-09-2003 01:00									#28
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That's funny. I don't seem to recall him saying it was an excuse.

	03-09-2003 01:00									#29
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Oh, oh Timex... hope you can take a lickin' and keep on...

	03-09-2003 01:02									#30
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I'm refraining, on the assumption that he's not claiming an innate correlation between race and violence.