06-09-2003 01:25									#61
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quote: Originally posted by DanS If it's any consolation, there is a subset of the American electorate that also didn't want to be told the truth about the issue and hates Bush because he was pretty clear about it.

thanks for the laughs . . . . .

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quote: Originally posted by MikeH Absolutely. Clinton was quite popular here because he understood how to say stuff to the international community, his international policies weren't really all that different to Bush's (pre 9/11). To a lot of us Euros listening to Bush (and even more so some of his cronies) is a bit like having someone urinate on you and tell you you should be enjoying it.

In other words you want to be conned into doing something

	06-09-2003 01:56									#63
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Many people fall for the sugar coating. Maybe that's one reason why he got reelected and impeachment failed.

But I don't like Clinton either.

	06-09-2003 02:08									#64
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BeBro: OK, I'll concede the point and edit the paragraph to say...

quote: At least the Germans want the trappings that go along with superpowerdom, without being willing to pay the price by increasing military spending. This desire is mainly due to all of those US policies that are offensive to Germans, but about which they have been shown to be able to do precious little about currently.

	06-09-2003 02:10									#65
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Yeah better, but I still don't think germans want to go bombing third world countries and be hated around the world.

	06-09-2003 02:19									#66
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I think they were fine with bombing Serbia and Afghanistan. Re being hated around the world, there is a lot of both hate and love for the US. I can imagine this would be the same with a superpower EU that behaves itself, mostly.

	06-09-2003 02:30									#67
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There is a major cultural difference. America still hasn't learned that war is the very last thing you want, while Europe learned that the hard way in the 40's (except Britain). Americans are too old to remember the lesson of their domestic war.

	06-09-2003 02:32									#68
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quote: ). Americans are too old to remember the lesson of their domestic war.

And other countries are too smart to envade a nation full of card toting NRA members. Just try and take out Tennesse. Go on, I dare ya Those hillbillies are more heavily armed than all but 4 Nations.

	06-09-2003 03:35									#69
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quote: Originally posted by DanS The poll found that Europeans and Americans shared similar views in identifying the biggest threats to global security:

Are you sure of that? IIRC there was some poll a few months back asking (I think) Belgians what the biggest threat to world peace was, and many answered the USA.

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quote: Originally posted by Japher And other countries are too smart to envade a nation full of card toting NRA members. Just try and take out Tennesse. Go on, I dare ya Those hillbillies are more heavily armed than all but 4 Nations.

I'm not sure I understand fully what you mean, but you are probably right. What is NRA? Sorry, but English is not my native language, especially not American slang.

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NRA is NRA.

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NRA = National Rifle Association

They are the heaviest Lobbiest against gun control

	06-09-2003 04:06									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Japher NRA = National Rifle Association They are the heaviest Lobbiest against gun control

Sweden and Finland are the most heavily armed civilians in Europe I suppose, because of the high amount of legal game hunters here. Still we are extremely pacifists nations. Do you mean those NRA guys have weapons more powerful than .30 hunting/sniper rifles? Is that legal?

I bet the NRA would stand no chance against the firepower of any modern regular army, no matter what.