06-09-2003 06:09									#1
	Turn 114, 290BC Increase the size of your Attachments

To be edited only by the Consuls and Ministers.

Status:
- Iron cut
- Republic
- Researching Engineering (28) 1 scientist.
- 250 gold. +32 gpt
- Slider at 9/0/1 tax/sci/lux


Urgent questions & tasks
- Final plans for PoA to plunge into the ocean West of Equilibrium. Warrior WB moving to join her.
- Trade with GWT
- Trade agreement written up with CFC.
- Determining turn that we attack. We can be ready to attack on T 121, 7 from now.


Unit Movement & Actions:
To be edited by MoW


Economy:
To be edited by MoI

WF:
To be edited by MoI

Workers:
Referance: Map of tiles still needing Improvements
To be edited by MoI


Diplomacy:
GCA: NAP in effect (to Turn 130).
CFC: NAP expired. New NAP proposed by CFC thru turn 117


Comment, please, many "plans" are just suggestions or ideas, not decisions already made.

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Discussion and basic reporting to follow. See the topped thread for comprehensive results

Last edited by notyoueither on 06-09-2003 at 06:38

	06-09-2003 07:38									#2
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Urgent questions & tasks . . . - Determining turn that we attack. We can be ready to attack on T 121, 7 from now.

Yes, 7 turns from now, unless we come up with any reason to delay the war any more.

So, start discussing...

E_T

	06-09-2003 16:15									#3
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Based upon my lastest findings of Strength Analysis, This is what I think GCA has of this turn:


(all units not marked are considered Vet)

Spearmen 14 (174 pts) 2 Elites
Horsemen 10 (132 pts) 4 Elites
Swordmen 10 (including two reported in Army) 4 elites (220 pts)

For a total of 526 pts

Apolyton has:

Warriors 6 (40 pts) 5 Reg 1 Elite
NM's 12 (220 pts) 4 Regulars
MI's 12 (282 pts) 1 Regular
Swordmen 3 (55 pts) 1 Regular
Horsemen 3 (36 pts)
Galley 2 (12 pts) 2 Regulars

For a total of 645 pts

That would give us an advantage, by my calculations for Strength, of ~22.6% 645/526=1.226

This 22% advantage coincides with my results of the window for Strength with the F3 Advisor being at 21%.

I'm not taking into account for terrain. I can sure enough calculate ours, but there's no way to know where every GCA unit is or if it is fortified or not. Since things have a way of averaging themselves out, I'm just counting unit strengths.

BTW, the basic math for determining unit strength (at least what I'm using) is like this:

Take a Vet Horsemen which has stats of 2-1-2. You ignore the movement rate and only count the 2-1. You add the 2 and the 1 to get 3. You then multiply the 3 by the level of the unit, which is Vet in this case, so 3 times 4(for Vet) is 12. A Vet Horsemen has a unit strength of 12.

4(2+1)=12

For a Regular Horsemen:

3(2+1)=9

For an Elite Horsemen:

5(2+1)=15

	06-09-2003 19:32									#4
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Have we gotten any Hard Intel from CFC this last several turns. We need GCA Unit moves and compositions. Someone have Octy send us a screenie or 2 (edited if he wants), so we can analyze it.

E_T

	06-09-2003 21:08									#5
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I can't remember if we have an e-mail address thread somewhere or not. But anyways, My e-mail has changed, please send the save (or anything else) to my new e-mail address, royparrishATearthlinkDOTnet.

E_T

	08-09-2003 09:31									#6
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Diplomacy:
Offer to ND of Feudalism and 2gpt for Eng is still on the table, accepted by us. Esc to get out of screen


Unit Movement and Actions:
M06 'wervdon' moves 1 2 1
M07 'Scourge' moves 2 1
M08 'Steelglove' moves 2 1
M09 'Hawkeye' moves 2 1
M10 'Grog' moves 2 1
M11 'Slash' moves 2 1
M13 'x' moves 2 1
M12 'BigFurryInfantry' moves 8 8 8

N01 'MerZenary' fortifies
N05 'Enamel' moves 2 2
N10 'Kloreep' moves 4 1
N11 'y' moves 4 4 1

C02 'a' moves 3 6

W02 'BigFree' moves 3 7. Fortify
W07 'WhiteBandit' moves 4

N04 'Togas' skips turn

W08 'not_panag' fortifies
W12 'Warrior With No Name' skips turn

S05 'Hack' moves 6 9

G01 'AS Princess of Apolyton' moves 4 8 9
G02 'AS Expedition' [Flash, Jagjef] moves 6 (sp in Port Blacksand) 6 3. Fortify all

All units of AGA set to sentry


Economy:
Apolyton building settler (1)
Mingapulco finished mi. building warrior (1)
Banantopia finished merc building warrior (1)
Incensity building mi. change to merc (2)
Tripoli building court house (4)
Equilibrium building walls (12)
Cuido de Alcohol building cat (14)
Hispanica building barracks (9)
Possumopolis finished cat. building cat (7)
Karina building cat (5)
LuxInvicta building granery (9)
Big Bend building worker (8)
BigFurryCity finished temple. building baracks (10)
Heart of Darkness building cat (4)

WF:
Apolyton NC
Mingapulco NC
Banantopia NC
Incensity NC
Tripoli NC
Equilibrium scientist
Cuido de Alcohol NC
Hispanica NC
Possumopolis change to 4-14
Karina change to 3-19
LuxInvicta NC
Big Bend NC
BigFurryCity NC
Heart of Darkness NC

Workers:
Worker01: 'Dan' clearing (2) Big bend 6
Worker02: 'Monkee' clearing (4) Nana 2 1
Worker03: 'panag' moves 8 7 7
Worker04: 'EVC' moves 6 6 3
Worker05: 'Dejon' moves 6 6 3
Worker06: 'MrWIA' moves 6 6 3
Worker07: 'Rush' roading (3)
Worker08: 'Yo' clearing (5) Karina 3
Worker09: 'Calc II' clearing (4) Nana 2 1
Worker10: 'Spink' roads (2) BFC 8 7
Worker11: 'Horse' mining (2) Tripoli 9
Worker12: 'Squid' mining (2) Tripoli 9
Worker13: 'Otto' clearing (6) Lux 6
Worker14: 'Mark' clearing (6) Lux 6
Worker15: 'Gits' clearing (2) Big bend 6
Worker16s: 'Farb' roading (2) Equilibrium 6
Worker17: 'Yin' mining (3) Possum 3
Worker18: 'Lib' mining (3) Possum 3
Worker19: 'rah' clearing (5) Karina 3


Slider: 9/0/1 tax/sci/lux. +32gpt. 250 gold.
1 scientist. Engineering in 28

	08-09-2003 16:08									#8
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Perhaps a small mistake made in the posted orders:

G01 'AS Princess of Apolyton' moves 4 8 9

I believe this should be 4 8 6 unless we end the turn on a sea tile.

BTW my mod powers disappeared when Octy got them - I am fixing that, hopefully.

	08-09-2003 16:40									#9
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Since I haven't seen this mentioned... Gren-whatever's score is missing from the list at the top of the screen. In other words, the Frenchies were just now put out of their misery.

(Edit: removed smiley)

Last edited by Vlad Antlerkov on 08-09-2003 at 17:06

	08-09-2003 16:59									#10
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Thanks Vlad!

	08-09-2003 19:21									#11
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And then there were six....

E_T

	09-09-2003 01:40									#12
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Confirmed, we've moved up from 7th to 6th place in the disease stat.

	09-09-2003 01:50									#13
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quote: Originally posted by joncnunn Confirmed, we've moved up from 7th to 6th place in the disease stat.

The one stat we'll probably be last with for quite a while.

	09-09-2003 01:53									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Rhothaerill The one stat we'll probably be last with for quite a while.

So... anyone else want to kill Mongoose for not even trying to balance the start positions? Or at least break his arm?

	09-09-2003 08:40									#15
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt BTW my mod powers disappeared when Octy got them - I am fixing that, hopefully.

Um - did someone tell Mark that Octavian should not become a Mod in here when he was granted SPDG Mod powers? Because it now appears we have a CFC member as a Mod over our ISDG forum.

	09-09-2003 09:06									#16
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Relax - I checked it out with DanQ. He says there will be no issue at all. Although it was a surprise to me when I logged in recently I guess Octy probably asked to be given them.

	09-09-2003 10:09									#17
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The questioning begins...

	09-09-2003 18:34									#18
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither The questioning begins...

Does this note refer to the galley movement?

Or is MWIA correct about 4-8-6?

	09-09-2003 20:24									#19
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quote: Originally posted by vondrack Does this note refer to the galley movement? Or is MWIA correct about 4-8-6?

I think he's refering to the fact that OctavianX was given Mod powers to the "Civ3-Democracy Game" forum and people will start to question whether or not he has access to this forum as well.

	10-09-2003 07:32									#20
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quote: Originally posted by vondrack Does this note refer to the galley movement? Or is MWIA correct about 4-8-6?

I believe I typo'd. Dubya should be correct.