08-09-2003 20:12									#61
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	08-09-2003 20:16									#62
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I'm not moved by our anthem in general, but it also depends on circumstances. In very proud moments, such as won championships or so, it can have an effect.

From a music point of view I like the US anthem more than ours, also the lyrics.

Ming - do you feel moved when the US anthem is played? Open yourself.

	08-09-2003 20:44									#63
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I do like our anthem. When it is sung properly, anyway (rare noawadays, it seems).

-Arrian

	08-09-2003 20:47									#64
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Which other anthems besides the Star Spangled Banner describe an historical event?

	08-09-2003 20:48									#65
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Yeah, everyone always seems to mutilate the national anthem by adding add lib woohoos... Ussually done by black folk to, though any stupid pop singer knows how to destroy it. The best singers of the NA? Hewy Lewis and the News

I think the reason Americans still get emotional over that anthem is that we are good at realeasing patriotic propegandan movies at regular intervals...

I just watched Gods And Generals... Dang that was a long movie, but it was really good... Learned a lot about General Jackson

	08-09-2003 21:47									#66
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I've not heard Huey Lewis sing it.
I imagine he would do a good job.

	08-09-2003 21:50									#67
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They all sing it Acapela (spelling?)/ no music
Like they do for...??? Man it's been a while since I've listened to them, can't remember there acapela songs!

Anyway, the use to sing it (and may still do) for the Niners a lot...

	08-09-2003 21:57									#68
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Marc Anthony, is that someone's name?
He sang at the Cowboy game and did a good job.
Had hearing aids, it looked like.

	08-09-2003 22:02									#69
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I prefer the Internationale.

Seriously, "This Land is Your Land" is a much better song. Gotta love Guthrie. That ought to be our national anthem.

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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion damn Boris. how, just HOW can you be so unamerican?

I must hold true to my musical sensibilities before all else. My country is music!

	09-09-2003 03:26									#71
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quote: My country is music!

My music is country!

Yeah, it may not be the hardest thing in the world to play or maybe even sing, and it ain't no Puccini, but if that were so high school marching bands and britiney speers would never be able to perform it!@

	09-09-2003 03:40									#72
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It's too hard to sing, that's the problem. It requires an unusually wide range for an anthem, and engages in far too many musical leaps. That's why it's prone to be butchered so much in performance.

It's just not a great piece of music, that's all. Passable, yes. It's uplifting through association, but unremarkable in and of itself.

I've always thought the tune from "A Mighty Fortress is Our God" would make a stunning national anthem. Bach is hard to beat!

	09-09-2003 04:05									#73
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Yeah, well, my national anthem could beat up your national anthem!

	09-09-2003 04:06									#74
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When the hell did Odin say that? I must see this.

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	09-09-2003 05:17									#76
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everyone knows Jesus went to India

	09-09-2003 05:19									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion From a music point of view I like the US anthem more than ours, also the lyrics.

Ugh, no way. The German anthem is quite lovely. Haydn really did write a pretty tune. The original string quartet setting is elegant and moving.

	09-09-2003 05:45									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov I must hold true to my musical sensibilities before all else. My country is music!

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	09-09-2003 05:47									#79
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quote: Learned a lot about General Jackson

Yeah, we learned that he was a long-winded and preachy ***** of a man. I was glad when he got shot.

Didn't like Gods & Generals much, as you can see.

	09-09-2003 05:49									#80
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Hey, I'm not a neo-Confederate by any means, but I still enjoyed Gods and Generals.

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G&G was cloying and putrid.

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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov G&G was cloying and putrid.

Any particular reason other than the fact that you hate all white Southerners?


I argue that even us Yankees can enjoy a movie like Gods and Generals.

	09-09-2003 06:07									#83
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quote: I argue that even us Yankees can enjoy a movie like Gods and Generals.

This may be true, but I would also argue that all residents of states not in existence during the Civil War find Gods and Generals to be an over-long crap fest.

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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Any particular reason other than the fact that you hate all white Southerners?

I think having been born and raised in the South would negate that as a factor.

Plus, um, pot, kettle, black.

quote: I argue that even us Yankees can enjoy a movie like Gods and Generals.

Yankees with bad taste in movies, yes. Exhibit B: Your liking "Titanic."

Case rested.

G&G is bad because it's poorly written and poorly directed, and in many cases poorly acted. It has nothing to do with politics.

	09-09-2003 06:47									#85
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I am pretty much moved by the national anthems of Great Powers (at least by those few that I know, or better to say, remember). Also, the Internationale affects me profoundly.

	09-09-2003 07:24									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Ugh, no way. The German anthem is quite lovely. Haydn really did write a pretty tune. The original string quartet setting is elegant and moving.

You mean aside from all the ugly historical overtones?

(if we're talking about Deutchland Uber Alles)

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I liked Serge Gainsbourg's reggae version of the Marseillaise, which he performed after receiving death threats from National Front types. I also like the rendition of the Marseillaise in 'Casablanca'- it chokes me up every time.

I liked Haydn's Austrian national anthem.

Apparently (it may have been the Saudi Arabian Crown Prince, can't quite remember) liked one tune so much, he wanted it as their national anthem. He was advised against it- it was 'Yes! We have no bananas!'...

Australia's national anthem is a turgid dirge, that should be replaced by 'Waltzing Matilda' as soon as possible.

	09-09-2003 08:05									#88
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quote: I've always thought the tune from "A Mighty Fortress is Our God" would make a stunning national anthem. Bach is hard to beat!

Yeah he is, but isn't the main tune by Martin Luther?

Edit: Yeah, it is.

	09-09-2003 08:12									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse You mean aside from all the ugly historical overtones? (if we're talking about Deutchland Uber Alles)

IIRC, Deutschland Uber Alles was written when the germanic states were fragmented.
Then it was used as propaganda.

Anyway, the US anthem is okay, but I can list quite a few that are better:
1. Russia
2. China
3. The Internationale
4. France
5. Germany
6. Finland
7. Azerbaijan
8. North Korea
9. South Korea
10. Australia (Don't stone me!)
11. India
12. Pakistan

The list goes on...

	09-09-2003 08:24									#90
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I'd like our anthem better if I knew who Gert by Sea was.