14-09-2003 06:27									#1
	Why is the Christian Sabbath on Sunday, and not Saturday? Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Cant find a good answer anywhere lol-why is it?

	14-09-2003 06:29									#2
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Because college football is on Saturday. God is too busy guiding the Huskers on Saturday to answer prayers, so they moved all religious activities to Sunday.

	14-09-2003 06:33									#3
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Cause it could not possibly be on the same day as that of the j.e.w.s.....

NOw, let's all go to a TAIF for our sabbath dinner.

	14-09-2003 06:34									#4
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Why not?

I mean the Torah is fairly clear..... creation on sunday, rest on saturday....

	14-09-2003 06:35									#5
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I thought it was just a matter of us considering Monday to be the first day, and the Jews considered Sunday the first day?

	14-09-2003 06:37									#6
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Dosent the western world consider sunday the first day of the week?

Does the vatican have a different calender?

	14-09-2003 06:42									#7
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Monday is the beginning of the week, hence calling saturday and Sunday the weekend.

	14-09-2003 06:44									#8
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Then why do calenders place Sunday as the first day of the week?

	14-09-2003 06:46									#9
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Becuase they were lazy stupid slobs. I hate that placement...splitting the weekend like that.

	14-09-2003 06:47									#10
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	14-09-2003 06:52									#11
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quote: Becuase they were lazy stupid slobs. I hate that placement...splitting the weekend like that.

It has nothing to do with laziness, GePap. Sunday is the first day of the week, despite what the term "weekend" indicates.

	14-09-2003 06:53									#12
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How dare you question the weekend!

	14-09-2003 07:01									#13
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http://webexhibits.org/calendars/week.html

An answer to Vesayen's question and a refutation of GePap's silly views.

	14-09-2003 07:03									#14
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Vesayen:

Christ rose on Sunday, hence the Christians moved the Sabbath to coincide with Easter.

	14-09-2003 07:14									#15
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Bah, this is like the millenium issue. Everyone knew the millenium started in 2001, NOT 2000. But everyone still celebrated in 2000, not 2001. Same things here: fine, the nerds can tell us technically Sunday is the first day, but no one acts like Sunday was the first day of the week in the West.

	14-09-2003 07:59									#16
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In France, Germany and Belgium, weeks begin on Monday. I wonder which countries, other than the US, begin their weeks on sundays.

	14-09-2003 08:02									#17
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If it really bother you, think about it this way. Saturday and Sunday are at the two ends of the week. It's very simple.

	14-09-2003 08:45									#18
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quote: Christ rose on Sunday, hence the Christians moved the Sabbath to coincide with Easter.

Actually, this may be true, but I'm pretty sure that this was started around the time of Constantine and the Council of Nicaea. Could be wrong, though.

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quote: Originally posted by Lorizael If it really bother you, think about it this way. Saturday and Sunday are at the two ends of the week. It's very simple.

Any thing that needs this srt of 'clarfication' is never "simple".

Who here starts counting the day on sunday?

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quote: Originally posted by GePap Everyone knew the millenium started in 2001, NOT 2000. But everyone still celebrated in 2000, not 2001.

Actually, most people didn't know that. When the news got around, it was too late to cancel the stupid celerations, so they went ahead anyway.

Stupid lazy PR twits.

	14-09-2003 11:10									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Vesayen: Christ rose on Sunday, hence the Christians moved the Sabbath to coincide with Easter.

We don't know that.

David Floyd's got it right: Sunday worship was instituted by Constantine, who co-opted a pagan Sabbath (the Day of the Sun) for his purposes. It's part of the long history of Christianity co-opting aspects of paganism to win converts.

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GePap: You're not alone; Turkish calendars are printed with Monday as the first day of the week. Of course, whether you want to feel validated by the Turks is another question.

	14-09-2003 11:21									#23
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quote: no one acts like Sunday was the first day of the week in the West.

EVERYONE that I know of in the US considers Sunday to be the first day of the week. You have one day before and after the 'work week' off.

	14-09-2003 11:22									#24
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It's to commemorate the pagan sun-god which christ replaced (at least offically). The birthday of christ was also moved to the birth of the sun (midwinter).

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Rufus:

quote: We don't know that.

What day of the week Christ died?

They did have calendars back then, Rufus.

What do you make of this?

quote: "It is not until about A.D. 150 that we find any clear and unmistakable reference to a regular meeting of Christians for worship, including the Eucharist, on the ‘day of the Sun’ Justin, I Apology 67)" (ibid., p. 280).

Emperor Constantine was not even born until 275 AD.

	14-09-2003 11:31									#26
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quote: Originally posted by GePap Bah, this is like the millenium issue. Everyone knew the millenium started in 2001, NOT 2000. But everyone still celebrated in 2000, not 2001. Same things here: fine, the nerds can tell us technically Sunday is the first day, but no one acts like Sunday was the first day of the week in the West.

0. What is this "millenium" you speak off and does it have anything to do with a "millennium"?

1. Most people celebrated both.

2. You are right. I was raised with Monday as the first day of the week. Let's burn the unbelievers.:P

	14-09-2003 11:39									#27
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there may have been people who worshipped on sunday before the council (which was in the early 300s AD)

I mean it makes sense to associate less with the jews (at least arround 75 ad) and more with the sun worshippers who were the most common at that time

but it was not officially (if you count those people as official) changed until that council

and yes, in the US the week starts with Sunday

I will just put in (As some know) that I consider the Sabbath as Saturday

Jon Miller

	14-09-2003 11:40									#28
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I beleive that there is a catholic catechism about changing the day of worship from sunday to saturday

don't recall which one though

Jon Miller

	14-09-2003 11:50									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Rufus: What day of the week Christ died? They did have calendars back then, Rufus.

I don't recall any biblical mention of the Sabbath in relationship to Christ's crucifixion, which would be one way to argue with certainty that he rose the day after the Jewish Sabbath. So, yes, we had calendars, but can we date this? Or is the Friday-Sunday timeline for the resurrection just a convention, like Dec. 25?

quote: What do you make of this? Emperor Constantine was not even born until 275 AD.

That some early Christians practiced worship on Sunday -- and some did not. It doesn't change the fact that the Sabbath was officially set by Constantine.

	14-09-2003 11:51									#30
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there is discussion of the Sabbath related to Christs death

according to the gospels Christ rose on a sunday

Jon Miller