15-09-2003 21:08									#1
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quote: New study says Germans are the laziest workers The image of the Germans as a hard-working, efficient work force has been damaged by a study suggesting they're one of the laziest nations in the world. The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development found Germans spend just a sixth of their time at work. Germans work an average of 1,447 hours a year, but the Americans clock up 1,805 hours and the Japanese 1,859. Koreans who top the workaholics table with 2,447 hours. And the Germans also fare better than most other countries when it comes to holidays. With an average of 43 days off a year, 30 days holiday and up to 13 bank holidays, the Germans beat the Brits by nine and a half days. The Americans in comparison only get 23 days to rest. Not only do Germans work less during their working lives but they also retire earlier. Germans retire, on average, aged 60.3 years. Workers in Britain do not usually start to cash in their pensions until they are 62.6 years of age. In the US this figure increases to 64.6 years and in Japan they work until 68.5.

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_816152.html?menu=news.quirkies

I'm not sure which is more surprising, that Germans are lazy, or that South Koreans work 35% more hours than Americans!

Okay, back to work! Except you Germans!

	15-09-2003 21:12									#2
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Ghodam Germans! Don't they know that arbeit macht frei?

	15-09-2003 21:16									#3
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When you're efficient, I guess you can work less.

	15-09-2003 21:17									#4
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The NAFTA area is more open to foreign competetion then the EU is so we've had to competete against Asian workaholics for several decades now while Euros have been much more protected. That's one reason American workers feel less secure at their jobs and work so many more hours then Euro workers.

	15-09-2003 21:20									#5
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How does that mean they are lazy?

You could just as easily say that Americans are screwed hardest.

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The other idea is that Europeans are restricted from working long hours by labour legislation. Those that wish to work longer are either stopped from doing so, or emigrate - to the US.

Hence you get a influx of people into the US of people who prefer more income to leisure, and those that prefer more leisure remain in Europe.

All that we see is therefore the large-scale result of people's individual choices.

	15-09-2003 21:37									#7
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara How does that mean they are lazy? You could just as easily say that Americans are screwed hardest.

exactly. the protestant work ethic the hardlining pilgrims brought over gave us little vacations.

that doesn't mean the germans are LAZY, not at all. they may bust their ass for all you know.

you won't be calling them lazy when the next reich pops up either.

	15-09-2003 21:39									#8
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die deutschen sind nicht fleissig?

http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/29/42/1939233.pdf

ok, what disturbs me is that between korea and slovakia, the next hardest working country, there's still a full 400 hour difference.

	15-09-2003 21:40									#9
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Germany is where Protestantism started, Uber.

	15-09-2003 21:41									#10
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We were deciding on vendors sometime ago to build a machine for us, one deciding factor was that Germans take all of September off, for the most part. That really screws ya when your on a time line.

	15-09-2003 21:41									#11
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Germany is where Protestantism started, Uber.

yes, i know all about martin luther. but those are lutherans. we got calvinists.

	15-09-2003 21:42									#12
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I heard it was August they take off. Anyway, we should get August off.

	15-09-2003 21:44									#13
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It might of been August. Still, a whole month off!

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I heard it was August they take off. Anyway, we should get August off.

and have the world grind to a screetching halt every august?

	15-09-2003 21:44									#15
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It just means American's are dumbasses in that regard.

	15-09-2003 21:46									#16
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In Sweden, we have five weeks vacation in july/august

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quote: How does that mean they are lazy?

quote: that doesn't mean the germans are LAZY

Lads, it's called ... humor.

quote: You could just as easily say that Americans are screwed hardest.

Actually, that's how I feel, and that's why I bolded the part detailing number of days off.

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And then they whine about America being a Superpower?

	15-09-2003 21:47									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Japher It might of been August. Still, a whole month off!

What's wrong with a whole month off? With pay!

I think we'd have a lot less social problems if we spent less time at the office and more time with our families. At the very least, we could get a whole month's Civing in.

	15-09-2003 21:48									#20
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Look at Mexicans and siestas.
Now is that a deal, or what ?

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quote: Originally posted by Japher And then they whine about America being a Superpower?

For all the good it does us. Being an empire means you're supposed to be able to enjoy yourself. Who the hell wants to be Sparta?

	15-09-2003 21:49									#22
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Look at Mexicans and siestas. Now is that a deal, or what ?

I think we should demand that here in hot old Florida. You guys in Texas could definately use a siesta.

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quote: What's wrong with a whole month off? With pay!

Nothing, but when we don't get the month off, and we have to get a project done in 6 mo. and 1 mo. is taken by our contractor laying by the beach... that is what I am complaining about.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara What's wrong with a whole month off? With pay! I think we'd have a lot less social problems if we spent less time at the office and more time with our families. At the very least, we could get a whole month's Civing in.

i still revert to the fact that the world would stop for a month. if no ones working the power plants, or the ISPs, or the supermarkets (for caffiene), then you cant civ.

you'd have to stagger the months off so theres always a full workforce out there.

	15-09-2003 21:53									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Uber KruX i still revert to the fact that the world would stop for a month. if no ones working the power plants, or the ISPs, or the supermarkets (for caffiene), then you cant civ

That's what money-hungry high school kids are hired to do

	15-09-2003 21:54									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Combat Ingrid That's what money-hungry high school kids are hired to do

if they're not with their families, che's argument is weakened.

and i dont want some HS doofus running my ISP. i have enough problems with "qualified" individuals.

	15-09-2003 21:54									#27
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Perhaps its time for me to consider moving to Germany.

	15-09-2003 21:54									#28
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Now we have a common good we can join forces on and launch a truly worthy protest, Che.

WE DEMAND SIESTAS!

	15-09-2003 21:55									#29
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We could have sleep-ins.

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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Now we have a common good we can join forces on and launch a truly worthy protest, Che. WE DEMAND SIESTAS!

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i saw a female comedian that made a joke about this. it boiled down to how it must have came about.

"all the mexican lawmakers would have to be gathered in one place, discussing what laws to make for the new country. and one guy came up and said 'i don't know about the rest of you, but i really start to drag my ass around noon, maybe we should all take a nap.' and the funny thing is, THEY LISTENED TO HIM! How awesome is that?"