26-09-2003 01:47									#1
	Staznes (with added emu) Apolyton 2 : Current World Full PM-box? Change here!

Hello and welcome to my second Apolyton staznes, The Current World! It has ideas based from Jasons Wargame, stjnes4, and several other small tidbits thrown in.

The premise of this NES is simple. It is shortly after the American-led war on Afghanistan. Kim Jong Il is arming North Korea with nuclear weapons, and Saddam Hussein is being accused of possessing biological and chemical weapons.

This is our current times (give or take a few months )

Also remember, this is a work in progress so changes may be made.

Your template will be provided by me when you choose your nation.

Sample Template
Nation
Ruler Name
Government: Democracy
Economy: (1-30)
Army: 1,000,000 (numbers based on RL manpower)
Army Tech: high-tech Middle Modern Age
Navy: large
Navy Tech: high-tech Middle Modern Age
Air Force: large
Air Force Tech: high-tech Middle Modern Age
Internation Disputes:
Alliances:

Army

The size of your army is based on the real world facts, but you can gear your army more towards actual infantry or tanks, etc if your wish. To raise your army you must say it in your orders. It costs 4 economy normally. I will decide how long it takes to increase the size, and will inform you.


Army Tech

This can prove to be the deciding factor in a battle with barely superior numbers. Your tech level on the army front determines your UU's and how well your army fights.

You can research things, just ask me first and ill approve of dissaprove. Raising your tech costs on an average of 6 economies.

Navy

This is showed by levels, but might soon be changed to individual units. It is needed to create blockades and too transport armies across bodies of water. Raising the Navy is usually about 4 economies.

Navies can move 7 squares a turn.

Air Force Levels and Tech

Much like the navy, also soon might be changed. Critical too any operation. To raise the air force costs 5 economies.

You can run bombing missions, recon missions, or simple air superiority.

Bombing Missions

Use these to soften your enemys army up, them move in.

Recon

Use this too scout your enemys defenses and give you an attacking bonus.

Air Superiority

Knock the opposing air force our of the sky with this mission!

Surgical Strike

Strikes certain targets, like palaces, or factories. Good for crippling enemys economy

Economy

Uses numbers, might add more later. Use your numbers wisely!

Increasing the economy depends on how low it is , and several other factors.

Wars

Since this is the current world, in democracies and republics it is necessary to gain a majority opinion in favor of war. Long length, casualties, and other things can lower opinion in favor. Also, you might want NPC's too have the ok as well.

Wars should be planned out for better results.

Depotisms do not need to worry about this.

After an invasion, a garrison is usually necessary to maintain order.

Governments

Democracy-Republic: Econonomy can floruish to maximum levels, but you must get majority opinion on wars to get best effects. Your people are my loyal to you as well.

Despotisms: Economy is stuck at 15. You do not have to gain any support to wage war, but NPC democracies like you less.

Communism: Public support of wars is unnecessary. Economy can rise to 25. Red police can also be used to quell the populace, but dont expect them too like it.

Trade

This i still cant figure out, any help would be greatly appreaciated.

Spying and Espionage

To spy or espionage, you must build the facilites for it and train spys. They usually cost around 5 economies.
it cost 2 econonies to train spies the better trained your spies the more likely your missions will succede


training Levels Are: Very Low, Low, Meduim, Good, High.


Assisanation

Throws nation into chaos until replacement is found. More effective on despots and communists. A nation in chaos is easily invaded, and can also split into civil war.

Your reputation among NPC's will drop if you are caught.


Sabotage

Lowers nations economy by 3 to 5 levels, and hurts his factory base. Cost of the operation is 3 economies.

Incite Rebellion/Coup

Creates civil wars, and rebellions. Best used in poor nations, unloyal nations, or depotisms.


Nukes and other WMD's

While very destructive, WMD's can turn people against you if used too much without provocation.

Nukes

Hurts a wide radius of land and causes panic. Decreases economy by 10 in the nation, and make it necessary to clean the radiation up.

They cost about 2 economies a piece, but if used can make NPC's think very badly about you.


Bio and Chemical

Best used in large amounts. Bio is harder to get, but chemical is much easier.

Causes panic, but not as much as nukes. Lowers economy from anywhere between 3-8, but is higher in hevy populated areas.


Notes

Secret diplomacy and orders are ofcourse allowed.

Government attributes will be posted soon.

Governments can change, but republics and democracies might resist it.

NPC's do diplomacy and are as active as i see fit for them. They will conduct war and other things.

Last edited by emu on 28-09-2003 at 00:47

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Nations List

Andorra
Bermuda
Bhutan
Burundi
Cape Verde
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Greenland
Papal State
Kiribati
Maldives
Malta
Marshall Islands
Mauritius
Micronesia, Federated States of
Moldova
Monaco
Monserrat
Nauru
Nepal
Palau
Reunion
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent & the Grenadines
Samoa
San Marino
São Tomé & Príncipe
Solomon Islands
Togo
Tonga
Trinidad & Tobago
Turkmenistan
Tuvalu
Uganda
Vanuatu
Western Sahara
Afghanistan
Albania
Angola
Armenia
Azerbaijan
Bahamas, The
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Benin
Bolivia
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Botswana
Brunei
Bulgaria
Burkina Faso
Burma
Cambodia
Cameroon
Central Africa Republic
Chad
Chile
Comoros
Congo, Democratic Republic of
Congo, Republic of
Costa Rica
Côte d'Ivoire
Cyprus
Djibouti
Dominica
El Salvador
Ethiopia
Fiji
Gabon
Gambia, The
Georgia
Ghana
Grenada
Guadeloupe
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Guyana
Haiti
Honduras
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Kyrgyzstan
Laos
Latvia
Lebanon
Liberia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Macedonia, FYOM
Madagascar
Malawi
Mali
Mauritania
Mongolia
Morocco
Mozambique
Nicaragua
Niger
Oman
Panama
Papua New Guinea
Paraguay
Peru
Philippines
Puerto Rico
Qatar
Rwanda
Senegal
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
Slovakia
Slovenia
Somalia
Sri Lanka
Suriname
Swaziland
Tajikistan
Tanzania
Uruguay
Uzbekistan
Venezuela
Vietnam
Yemen
Yugoslavia
Zambia
Zimbabwe
Algeria
Belarus
Colombia
Croatia
Cuba
Ecuador
Hungary
Iceland
Jamaica
Kenya
Korea, North
Libya
Malaysia
New Zealand
Nigeria
Romania
Singapore
Sudan
Syria
Thailand
Tunisia
Austria
Belgium
Czech Republic
Denmark
Egypt
Finland
Greece
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Ireland
Kuwait
Mexico
Netherlands
Norway
Portugal
Saudi Arabia
Switzerland
Taiwan
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
Argentina
Australia
Brazil
Britain
Canada
China
India
Italy
Israel
France
Germany
Japan
Korea, South
Pakistan
Poland
USSR
South Africa
Spain
Sweden
Turkey
United States
Palestine

Saudi Arabia
King Fahd/naervod
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Economy: 15
Army: 200,000 men
Army Tech: high-tech Middle Modern Age
Navy: small
Navy Tech: high-tech Middle Modern Age
Air Force: medium
Air Force Tech: high-tech Middle Modern Age
International Disputes: Nomadic groups on border region with Yemen resist demarcation of boundary; Kuwait and Saudi Arabia have been negotiating a long-contested maritime boundary with Iran; because the treaties have not been made public, the exact alignment of the boundary with the UAE is still unknown and labeled approximate.
Alliances:



Russia
Ruler Name: Specialist290
Government: Democracy
Economy: 16
Army: 850,000 men
Army Tech: Aging
Navy: Medium
Navy Tech: Aging
AirForce Very Large
Airforce Tech: High-Tech
Nuclear Weapons: 5
International Disputes: Contested border with Kazakhstan; Russo-Turkish debate over "ownership" of Dardanelles and Bosporus (Russians proclaiming it an international zone, while the Turks say they own the whole thing) dating back to 1700s.
Allainces:


United States
Ruler Name: Jack_www
Government: Democracy
Economy: 30
Army: 1,400,000 men
Army Tech: High-Tech
Navy: Gigantic
Navy Tech: High-Tech
AirForce: Huge
AirForce Tech: High-Tech
Nuclear Weapons: 5
International Disputes:
Allainces: NATO alliance, Japan, South Korea, and Isreal


Peoples Republic of China
Ruler Name: Comrade Tassadar
Government: Communism
Economy:16
Army: 2,100,000 men
Army Tech: High-Tech
Navy: Small
Navy Tech: Aging
AirForce: Medium
Airforce Tech: Aging
Nuclear Weapons: 2
International Disputes:
Allainces:


South Africa
Ruler Name: foolish_icarus
Government: Democracy
Economy: 20
Army: 60,000 men
Army Tech: High-Tech
Navy: Medium
Navy Tech: High-Tech
AirForce: Small
AirForce Tech: High-Tech
Nuclear Weapons; 0
International Disputes:
Allainces:


Turkey
Ruler Name: Methril
Government: Democracy
Economy: 18
Army: 510,000 men
Army tech: High Tech
Navy: Medium
Navy Tech: High tech
AirForce: Large
AirForce Tech: High Tech
Nuclear Weapons: 0
international Disputes:
Allainces:


Iran
Leader: Nuclear Master
Government: Islamic Republic
Economy: 16
Army: 510,000 men
Army Tech: aging
Navy: Small
Navy Tech: Aging
AirForce: Medium
AirForce Tech: High-Tech
Nuclear Weapons: 0
International Disputes: Put on the Axis of Evil. Supposedly sponsors terrorism.
Alliances:

Last edited by emu on 03-10-2003 at 23:01

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i will be turkey

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Saudi Arabia
King Fahd/naervod
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Economy: 14
Army: 200,000 men
Army Tech: high-tech Middle Modern Age
Navy: small
Navy Tech: high-tech Middle Modern Age
Air Force: medium
Air Force Tech: high-tech Middle Modern Age
International Disputes: Nomadic groups on border region with Yemen resist demarcation of boundary; Kuwait and Saudi Arabia have been negotiating a long-contested maritime boundary with Iran; because the treaties have not been made public, the exact alignment of the boundary with the UAE is still unknown and labeled approximate.
Alliances:

	26-09-2003 02:42									#5
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By the way, I have a book that has accurate armed forces size as of 2002 for all branches of the military, so feel free to ask and I will give.

For Turkey:
510,000 men
Medium navy
Large Air Force

All high tech.

	26-09-2003 02:57									#6
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thanks naervod

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I want to be United States this time.

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Ha! Fine, then I'll be the Peoples Republic of China.

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South Africa

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@ naervod, can I have Turkey;s stats? and btw, I really need a book like that

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I call Russia. Stats later.

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So the game started from the Start now? :-\

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the game starts from the beginning

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Russian Federation
Pres. Mikhail Ivanovich Getterov (Putin was voted out of office)
Govt.: Democracy
Economy: 19
Army: 850,000 men
Army tech: Aging Middle Modern
Navy: Medium
Navy tech: Aging Middle Modern
Air Force: Very Large
Air Force tech: High-tech Middle Modern
Treaties: CIS (Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lituania, other former Soviet republics)
International Disputes: Contested border with Kazakhstan; Russo-Turkish debate over "ownership" of Dardanelles and Bosporus (Russians proclaiming it an international zone, while the Turks say they own the whole thing) dating back to 1700s.

Last edited by Specialist290 on 27-09-2003 at 18:25

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Nation: United States of America
Ruler Name: President George W. Bush/ Jack_www
Government: Democratic Republic
Economy: 30
Army: 1,400,000 men
Army Tech: high-tech Middle Modern Age
Navy: 325 ships, 14 carriers
Navy Tech: high tech Middle Modern Age
Air Force: superpower
Air Force Tech: high tech Middle Modern Age
International Disputes:
Alliances: NATO alliance, Japan, South Korea, and Isreal

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quote: Originally posted by Specialist290 Russian Federation Pres. Mikhail Ivanovich Getterov (Putin was voted out of office) Govt.: Democracy Economy: 19 Army: 2,300,000 men (don't know real figures; I'll just go with this) Army tech: Aging Middle Modern Navy: Medium Navy tech: Aging Middle Modern Air Force: Large Air Force tech: Aging Middle Modern Treaties: CIS (Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lituania, other former Soviet republics) International Disputes: Contested border with Kazakhstan; Russo-Turkish debate over "ownership" of Dardanelles and Bosporus (Russians proclaiming it an international zone, while the Turks say they own the whole thing) dating back to 1700s.

Methril posted them in the first nes, its about 850,000

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Russia Actual Stats:
850,000 men, Aging
Medium Navy, Aging
Very Large, High-Tech (newer plane designs)

The Russian military has deteriorated since the breakup of the USSR due to avoision (is that a word?) of conscription, lack of maintenance, and old tanks designs (still using some WW2-era tanks).

United States:
1,400,000 men, High-Tech
Gigantic Navy, High-Tech
Huge Air Force, High-Tech

USA retains one of the most powerful armed forces in the world with superior technology and leadership, it can take on any foe one on one.

PRC:
2,100,000 men, High-Tech
Small Navy, Aging
Medium Air Force, Aging

PRC has had some signifcant army research and upgrades, although it's air force and navy are deteriorating.

South Africa:
60,000 men, High-Tech
Medium Navy, High-Tech
Small Airforce, High-Tech

South Africa is still leading regional power, only third to Ethiopia and Eritrea in Sub-Saharan Africa, and although out numbered by Angola, Rwanda, Dem. Rep. of Congo and Nigeria, has the advantage with superior technology and higher leadership, so don't be alarmed if those numbers seem small.


Note: I wrote the little blurbs myself, but the stats are from the book.

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what about poor little turkey

	27-09-2003 09:09									#19
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thanks naervod.

How about this then:

South Africa
President Thabo Mvuyelwa Mbeki
Government: Republic
Economy: 14
Army: 60,000 men
Army Tech: high-tech Middle Modern Age
Navy: Medium
Navy Tech: high-tech Middle Modern Age
Air Force: Small
Air Force Tech: high-tech Middle Modern Age
International Disputes:
Alliances:

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Looks good, Methril, look higher up for Turkey.

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Iran
Leader: Nuclear Master
Government: Islamic Republic
Economy: 20
Army: 510,000 men, aging Mid-Modern Age
Navy: Small, Aging Mid-Modern Age
Air Force: Medium, High-Tech Mid-modern Age (planes received from US before deposition of the Shah)
International Disputes: Put on the Axis of Evil. Supposedly sponsors terrorism.
Alliances:

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wait, those plans you talk about are from the 80's right? not very high-tech to me

but its emu's call, i dont really care

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naervod: Thanks. I'll fix it right away.

And... While it is true that Russia still uses some older tanks, the T-54/55 is not quite WWII-era. It came out just after the Korean War as a replacement to the T-34/85, which was used in WWII.

However, I won't contest the fact that a lot of Russia's military equipment is a bit behind in the times.

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@Metrhil-Well look how old the US F-14 (1970's) and B-52 (1950's) are, and I consider them to be high-tech (at least in the B-52 case, the retrofitted ones).

@Specialist-Actually, IIRC, the Russians use later models of the T-34 as set artillery pieces in the Far East.

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i did all the stats..

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quote: Originally posted by naervod @Specialist-Actually, IIRC, the Russians use later models of the T-34 as set artillery pieces in the Far East.

I stand corrected...

Anyway, this is neither the time nor the place for this. Let this NES be considered underway! (strikes dramatic, dignified pose, then looks around)

...Where's the map?

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Yes, let us get this going. I will do a story and possibly some diplomacy and orders later.

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Current South African actions:

Efforts are underway to wipe out the last remnants of apartheid organization. More involvement and discussion/criticism of the government is encouraged for all citizens.
To combat the AIDS problem, medical awareness is being increased and it is a crime for anyone who knows they have an STD to have intercourse with anothether person without informing them of their condition.
In order to expand and diversify the economy, significant tax breaks are being given to businesses that give their employees decent wages and reinvest their profits in their business.
Immigration laws have been eased for skilled and semi-skilled workers.

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Specialist290 its the very same map azale used, i didnt think i would need to post until i did the update

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To South Africa:
From: United States
We would like to help your nation in its fight against AIDS and poverty. We have about Two billion dollars that you can use to these ends. What do you say?

To: Iraq
We demand that you open up your country to UN inspectors. If you fail to do this in accord with the cease fire agreement that ended the first Gulf War and several UN resultions we will have no other course of action but to remove your government from power and have our troops inspect your country.