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OzzyKP
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Rockville, MD
Oct 1999
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Originally posted by Jac de Molay
He dumped good, but not great players, who were at least competent at their position, like Herman Moore, Johnny Morton, Jeff Hartings, Aaron Gibson, Terry Fair, and Brian Westbrook, and replaced them with complete busts like Az-Hakim and Bill Schroeder.
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They all got traded? Damn, I thought Moore and Morton retired. Why on earth would anyone get rid of them? Unless they were too old, they were the backbone of the team.
And Brian Westbrook.. Is he on the 'skins now? I'm so bad with names, but I swear I hear that name often. Where did Terry Fair go?
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Imran Siddiqui
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The Potterverse
Jan 1970
time: 00:31
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Vick does have enourmous talent of course. But the problem with players like him is they take up too much attention, and sometimes can be a distraction to the team. He garners so much medida attention, the media practically made the team of Atlanta Falcons- the Mike Vike show. They often act like there isn't a team.
What this leads to is obvious. Lack of teamwork. And when things go awry and their star is injuried, the media and the players lose faith in the ability of the team to win. |
This is a VERY simplified look at the Falcons situation. Mike Vick is overrated, but not by much. Vick hid the fact that the offensive line of Atlanta is HORRIBLE. Because Vick was so fast and could throw very well on the run, he hid that deficiency.
Johnson is a pocket passer, and the line's problems show more obviously.
Of course, this means there are more 3 and outs, which means the Defense is on the field more, which results in a tired D giving up too many points.
The conclusion is that Vick makes this team a contender and without him they ARE nothing. It has nothing to do with teamwork, but everything to do with how talented their star is.
In conclusion, without Vick the Falcons are not that great of a team. He hides a LOT of problems with that offense because of his great talent. If he can stay healthy and get more talent in the OL, I'm sure he will go down as one of the greatest players in NFL history.
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I feel this problem is lessened with a team without a "star" QB. Look at Minnesota. They won with a reject Redskins QB filling in for the talented, but not overhyped, (not after last season) Culpepper. |
You mess up your own hypothesis. Culpepper IS a star QB and has been thought of one, even after his down year last year. There are plenty of teams with 'star' QBs that do well, even when that star gets hurt. Look at the Rams with Kurt Warner last year. Look at the Patroits with Drew Bledsoe a few years back, etc. "Star" QBs do not lead to a lack of teamwork.. in fact they can induce better teamwork. The Farve Packers and the Elway Broncoes looked much more like a team than before the star QBs got there.
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21-10-2003 03:22
ACK!
Jeff George. 
. No. They just happen to both be overrated. I think some white QB's are overrated as well. Esp. Hasselback. So don't be thinking I'm like a conservative talk show host now 
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