29-09-2003 16:34									#1
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so it's the first day of classes at the univ. of chicago (good luck, soul survivor!)...

i'm taking a quarter off...

and a half-japanese, half-korean wunderkind (we know the brains come from both, the savant bit from the japanese side, and the psychotic drive from the korean side), no more than 14, is starting school at the pritzker school of medicine.

good luck to sho yano, and i hate him. not really, but seeing a prodigy like that... makes me feel so... stupid.

	29-09-2003 16:37									#2
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Wunderkinds don´t have fun

	29-09-2003 16:37									#3
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Bah! He's a freak. Don't worry about it.

	29-09-2003 16:48									#4
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I bet this kid never had the time to play Starcraft

	29-09-2003 18:14									#5
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You should've tried going to my 6th form....they are all like that. I am with only one other girl for A level Latin and she is an absolute genius (seriously). But I occasionally take comfort in the fact that she has no life and, despite her acedemic excellence, is incapable of conducting a sensible conversation.

	29-09-2003 18:16									#6
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Yeah, my (albeit limitied) experience of 'geniuses' are that they often seems to have some serious problems or have had some sort of nervous breakdown. Ignorance is bliss.

	29-09-2003 18:20									#7
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If only nervous breakdowns automatically meant you were a genius

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School is not just for an education in subjects you'll be examined in remember. You read about children taking exams under ten (exams aimed at 16 or 18 year olds) and wonder whether they would know what to do if their parents had a brainwave and took them to the park. Anyone who forces their child do fulfil some kind of dream of what they wished they had been is an awful parent. You may have wanted to play the piano when you were young and may regret the chance to have never done it, but to force your own child to learn when they clearly aren't enjoying it is just cruel. They may well grow up to be superstars, but they will also more than likely end up hating what you've done to them. And what parent would want that?

	29-09-2003 18:27									#9
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My parents made me play piano and I hated it. Then independently I started playing guitar and love it. Some of that musical theory might have stuck in my brain as well... maybe. I just like making it make interesting noises.

	29-09-2003 18:27									#10
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I often wonder about prodigies. I mean, if you're doing hard graft studying in your teens, where do you get the social skills (bribery and corruption), hand eye coordination (hot wiring cars) and entertainment (sniffing glue/whizz etc).

Do prodigies always go on wild benders later in life to make up for all the fun things they've missed?

	29-09-2003 19:07									#11
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There was a story in the last couple of years about a 14 or 15 year old prodigy who was removed from Oxbridge after he "misread" some signals and almost assaulted a fellow student. Would things have been different for him (or indeed her) if he had had a "normal" childhood and known how to act in the kind of situations we might regard as everyday.

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quote: Originally posted by Cruddy I often wonder about prodigies. I mean, if you're doing hard graft studying in your teens, where do you get the social skills (bribery and corruption), hand eye coordination (hot wiring cars) and entertainment (sniffing glue/whizz etc). Do prodigies always go on wild benders later in life to make up for all the fun things they've missed?

Thank God I'm not a prodigy!

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btw, just noticed the close resemblance between the word prodigy and the latin word 'prodigentia' meaning monsterous behaviour. I wonder if there is any connection

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	29-09-2003 19:50									#14
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sure, i mean there are all sorts of reasons not to be a prodigy, i guess...

but it's hard to say them and not sound envious/sour grapes...

and it does nothing to make you not feel stupid. he's asian, to boot. i'm just glad most asian parent's aren't crazy enough to now start saying things like, "he made it into medical school at 14!!! why are you so lazy?"

	29-09-2003 20:32									#15
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I don't envy these people at all. They generally have no social skills at all, and don't have a lot of fun, at least in my experience.

	29-09-2003 20:37									#16
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I expect a lot of them post here.

	29-09-2003 20:41									#17
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I used to go to high school with what I guess you could call a "mini prodgy" - that is, he was something like two or three years younger than everyone else. Of course he studied all day long, every day.

What was funny about it was that I got higher history grades than he did, without trying/studying, and I rubbed it in his face every time we got a graded assignment back, because he did the same thing to other people in math classes. Pissed him right off, I think he was ready to kill me

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People'd think I was a prodigy if I wasn't so bloody old!

	29-09-2003 21:43									#19
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First day of school (finally!!!) is great so far

I got Western Civ as a freshmen errr.... first year. I'm the only one in my entire class. Also placed into Honors Calc, I'm also signed up for intro to astrophysics (rocks for jocks?) and Philosophical Perspectives. Looks like I'm going to have an intimate relationship with the Greeks this quarter.

The University of Chicago Where Fun Comes To Die......

Just checking fantasy baseball then I'm off to lunch! The price of books is murder.

	29-09-2003 22:05									#20
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honors calc? 161? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

enjoy.

oh, and pay the us$30 extra at the seminary coop. the 10% discount knocks off tax and a little more, which is a blessing.

	29-09-2003 22:44									#21
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I always feel bad for prodigies... or any kid whose parents "force" the kid to do something... The parents always say "No, they want to do this, I am not forcing them" to which I reply "Of course they want to! They are good kids and all the want is to make you happy/proud! Thus, they want to because you want them to! I am sure they would rather you be proud of them for scoring a goal or making it to the top of the jungle gym without using their hands, but noooooooooo, you have to resent them for being a child because you never were one yourself you freakin' parent!!!"

Anyway, good luck Soul Survivor, have a good quarter/semester, whatever... Honors Calc? I took it, not worth it...

	30-09-2003 02:29									#22
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Most people envy those geniuses but at the same time say they don't like that kind of lives. Duh.

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I'm taking astronomy this semester. Thank god.

	30-09-2003 04:34									#24
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I feel more sorry for him based on his lineage...talk about being unloved by both racial backgrounds...yaaah!
No love lost between the Koreans and Japanese, that's for sure.
Worst thing I ever did was speak Japanese to some Koreans...thought they were going to gouge my eyes out.

	30-09-2003 04:55									#25
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Wait, today was your first day of school?!

	30-09-2003 07:31									#26
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It';s called a quarter system.

OOooooh, a Uchicago newbie! Welcome to the old alma mater!

Hope for an easy winter. Are you in the great orange monstrosity? (Palevsky?)

	30-09-2003 07:37									#27
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quote: No love lost between the Koreans and Japanese, that's for sure. Worst thing I ever did was speak Japanese to some Koreans...thought they were going to gouge my eyes out.

It's not that bad in Japan. I thought that talking about Korea here would lead to confrontation, but they really don't seem to care.

	30-09-2003 07:43									#28
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I'm in Pierce, 9x11 double yay

First day of school September 29th, the Cubs are on their way to the playoffs, its gonna dip near freezing in a few days. I guess hell does freeze over

THERE ARE PEOPLE ALREADY STUDYING!!!!!!!!!!

	30-09-2003 07:46									#29
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hey! I was going to use that avatar.

Well what can I say. I'm a procrastinator. I probably wouldn't have gotten around to changing it anyways.

	30-09-2003 07:50									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Soul Survivor I'm in Pierce, 9x11 double yay First day of school September 29th, the Cubs are on their way to the playoffs, its gonna dip near freezing in a few days. I guess hell does freeze over THERE ARE PEOPLE ALREADY STUDYING!!!!!!!!!!

Ooof, Pierce..my condolences..unless you are an athlete, and then, well, nice gym access. Has Ratner opened up yet?

As for the Cubbies..remember, you are in Sox territory....

As for people studying..don;t let them distract you from a good spell of procrastination..remember, most papers are due 6th week and finals week..no need to start them until 5th week, and 24 hours before they are due finals week.

s for calc..well, your funeral.