30-09-2003 22:28									#61
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well, yes, but your original answer gives a wrong impression. Good that you elaborated on it.

	30-09-2003 22:37									#62
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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd That depends - many times skin color is an indication of certain cultural beliefs/ideas/etc., that you, or at least ME, may not want to put up with. That is, it's not the skin color I have a problem with, it's the culture/ingrained attitudes of many people with that skin color I dislike.

Well, in general, if you're living in a country like the States then skin colour is not an indication of cultural beliefs/ideas/etc.

I look Chinese/Native Indian/Asian, but my culture is fully Canadian.

In general, the best rule is always: Don't judge a book by its cover.

	30-09-2003 22:38									#63
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quote: In general, the best rule is always: Don't judge a book by its cover.

copycat.

Oh, and in Israel, the law holds even better.

	30-09-2003 22:40									#64
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quote: Well, in general, if you're living in a country like the States then skin colour is not an indication of cultural beliefs/ideas/etc.

In my experience, it generally does, unless we're talking about 6th generation immigrants.

	30-09-2003 22:41									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai But, here's another question: Lets say you marry someone from a different "racial" background. Your kids are not going to look like you in terms of skin colour. Are you ready to handle something like, if you're white, you're kids will look Chinese or black? Think about it before you answer.

I have asked myself that question before, and before I asked it, I had already answered it to myself... I think it's time for my family to get some "new blood"...

	30-09-2003 22:43									#66
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Okay, okay, Azazel said it first.

Another thing Floyd, think about the white people you know who grew up with you. Do they all have the same political beliefs? Do they all have the same religious beliefs? Are their outlooks on the world the same as yours?

The answer would obviously be no.

So isn't it possible that you could meet a black French woman who shares similar beliefs that you have?

	30-09-2003 22:44									#67
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Considering Floyd's beliefs, I would say extremely unlikely.

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quote: So isn't it possible that you could meet a black French woman who shares similar beliefs that you have?

Same religious beliefs? Sure. Same political beliefs? Well, considering me, unlikely, but I see your point.

Someone who has the same cultural assumptions, same attitudes, same outlook? I kinda doubt it.

Here's an example. IN GENERAL, people from Asian countries (as distinguished from Americanized Asians) tend to be extremely strict and well disciplined in terms of education - it's the most important thing to them, and in my experience, many Asian parents drive their kids so hard it's almost cruel. I wouldn't say this is wrong, this is just an aspect of culture that I couldn't live with. Hence, I probably wouldn't date a non-Americanized Asian. Doesn't mean I hate Asians. Doesn't mean I think Asians are ugly.

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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd Here's an example. IN GENERAL, people from Asian countries (as distinguished from Americanized Asians) tend to be extremely strict and well disciplined in terms of education - it's the most important thing to them, and in my experience, many Asian parents drive their kids so hard it's almost cruel.

A lot of parents in Hong Kong that I have met reject the concept of pushing kids to pass exams when the kids are only five-years-old (sounds weird, but it happens all the time). They want their kids to have a well-rounded education. Problem is they don't have a choice. They can't afford the alternatives.

	30-09-2003 23:03									#70
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americanized asians themselves:

first gen parents drive their second gen kids. the second gen kids have little choice, but you can tell they already don't take it as seriously.

those second gen kids don't raise their third gen kids like their parents did, so by the time you get there, you have the regular americanized ones.

	30-09-2003 23:34									#71
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Hmm. I wouldn't date a non-wseternised Asian, probably, because the culture is way too different...

As for people who have about the same Western culture as Europeans/Americans... I value the girl's moral values above else, but of course, it's good if she is attractive physically... and I haven't yet found a single black women attractie physically.

I am in no way rascist, though.

	30-09-2003 23:46									#72
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Human flesh is human flesh, no matter what colour it is. QED.

EDIT: Thankyou Azazel

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	30-09-2003 23:55									#73
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quote: Originally posted by elijah Flesh is flesh, no matter what colour it is. QED.

Flesh is flesh, no matter what species it is. QED.

	01-10-2003 00:03									#74
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In my experience, second generation Asians (South Asians in particular) are middle-class whites as far as cultural values go.

	01-10-2003 00:08									#75
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So far as my rather limited experience goes, I've never dated someone of my own race. Not intentionally, it's just the way it worked out.

I'm surprised that people would need someone to share all their cultural beliefs, attitudes, and outlook to consider dating them. Maybe they should get themselves cloned, the perfect partner!

	01-10-2003 00:17									#76
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quote: asian fetishists disgust me

why?

	01-10-2003 00:29									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai But, here's another question: Lets say you marry someone from a different "racial" background. Your kids are not going to look like you in terms of skin colour. Are you ready to handle something like, if you're white, you're kids will look Chinese or black? Think about it before you answer.

Since I am already in that situation, I think I speak with some authority when I say: I love it.

William is the best thing that ever hapened to me, despite the fact that he is a slant eyed little bugger

Asmodean

	01-10-2003 00:36									#78
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One of my good buddies married a black chick, and he's white... His parents hate that their kids won't look like part of the family, but he's stoked because he wants to have a professional athelete for a kid that will set him up when he is older

Personally, it wouldn't matter to me what color the lady is... Had I have married outside of my race I would have had a good sheild for all the racist accusations I get hurled at me..

	01-10-2003 00:52									#79
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quote: But, here's another question: Lets say you marry someone from a different "racial" background. Your kids are not going to look like you in terms of skin colour. Are you ready to handle something like, if you're white, you're kids will look Chinese or black? Think about it before you answer.

and I would care because?

	01-10-2003 00:53									#80
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I'm living with a Black woman and we're going to adopt Chinese girls.

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Its like hair colour to me

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I'm living with a Black woman and we're going to adopt Chinese girls.

So you're certain? no kids?

	01-10-2003 04:36									#83
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Ummmmm....................

My only thought is this.

If you love someone, it really does not matter if they are a indigo martian.


O.K We all know how rare THEY are. But still.The point holds, oh and black gf, chinese kids is VERY cool.But I think that I may have to shoot my best friend if he impregnates my girlfriend.

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quote: Originally posted by Sava I don't like to limit my options.

You mean "left" or "right"

	01-10-2003 05:11									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo In my experience, second generation Asians (South Asians in particular) are middle-class whites as far as cultural values go.

Arund here we call them potatos. Brown on the outside and white on the inside.

	01-10-2003 05:11									#86
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I just saw, somewhere, and article with pictures of some thing they've cross-bred.
Combining a fox and a dog. I think it said dog.
Whatever. Strange as hell looking.

	01-10-2003 05:16									#87
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Its yellow on the outside and white on the inside.

	01-10-2003 05:17									#88
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quote: Its yellow on the outside and white on the inside.

O-kay then, well call 'em twinkies!

	01-10-2003 05:20									#89
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Don't confuse the gay guys.

	01-10-2003 06:42									#90
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quote: why?

why do asian fetishists disturb me? have you ever stumbled across one of those websites?
surely that question doesn't need a further answer?

how 'bout this? it perpetuates the myth that asian women--and by extension, asians in general--are "weak", demure, quiet, submissive, and/or kinky.
you have the madame butterfly/miss saigon, a submissive whore ready to be used and abused by a strong man, because asian men are deemed to be weak, sexless and neutered.
or you have the dragon lady, a nasty kinky woman who'll do anything and everything to a man, because asians in general are exotic, inscrutable, and dirty heathens unbound by good christian morals.
but hey, maybe i'm reading too much in racial politics into this.

maybe it could be the fact that they're really not treating the girl fairly--how will she ever know if they like her for who she is, or because she's more svelte, 'delicate' (i.e., smaller hips/chest usw.), has less hair, and fits their nastiest erotic fantasies with an exotic beauty?

why wouldn't asian fetishists disturb me?