02-10-2003 07:46									#1
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I'm trying to figure out the etymology of my last name (its Boshko surprisingly enough). The old story that I got from my family was that it probably meant barrel-maker (ie Carter). However, I don't think that's the case because it shows up as a Serbian first name, including that of historic nobility (Boshko Yugovich) which wouldn't make too much sense if it just meant barrel-maker.

The other theory that I got from my grandmother was that the Bo (or possibly the Bosh) prefix might possibly mean "God," like the Bog prefix of Bogdan, but that sounds pretty sketchy too. Also both my Russian history prof and a russian who worked for the housing people at my university said that Boshko sounded like a very Ukrainian name, despite my family coming from the Pripet Marshes in western Belorus (which isn't that far from the Ukraine I guess...).

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks!

	02-10-2003 14:07									#2
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The name for a barrel maker in this country is/was "Cooper". Just FYI, I have no other help to give. This is also a bump. Have a nice day.

	02-10-2003 14:13									#3
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It means nothing directly, but it may be derived from Bog (God) indeed, like in "Boshe moj" (Oh my God).

	02-10-2003 14:18									#4
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my parents speak polish

	02-10-2003 14:18									#5
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I know that Boshka is street russian for a person's head.

Bog is the world for god in russian. bojok could be a small god. but it's boJko and not BoSHko.

the 'ko' ending definetly sounds ukrainian.

	02-10-2003 14:19									#6
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Car polish? Or furniture polish?

	02-10-2003 14:22									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel I know that Boshka is street russian for a person's head.

AFAIK that's written Bashka. And many non-english languages translate they letter zhe (like in zhuk) not with "j" (which might be mistaken with i-kratkoe) or "zh", but with "sh".

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I always thought Boshko was the name of a squirell

	02-10-2003 14:26									#9
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Proper polish.

	02-10-2003 14:28									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph AFAIK that's written Bashka.

nope. It's Boshka.

quote: And many non-english languages translate they letter zhe (like in zhuk) not with "j" (which might be mistaken with i-kratkoe) or "zh", but with "sh".

zh would make sense, perhaps, but 'sh' is a totally different sound.

	02-10-2003 14:29									#11
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zh like jungle

sh like shyte

	02-10-2003 14:32									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel nope. It's Boshka.

According to my wife (russian, but with ukrainian roots) it's bashka. It's not a real word, though, but more or less slang.

quote: zh would make sense, perhaps, but 'sh' is a totally different sound.

As I said, a matter of transcription. In German, for instance, the "zhuk" letter is transcripted "sh", and the "shkola" letter "sch".

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and 'C' like cocksucker.

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yay! the autocensor is ****ed!

	02-10-2003 14:35									#15
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why? wouldn't that be 'k'?

	02-10-2003 14:38									#16
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Yup! Dad confirmed it. It's from Bojko, alright.

In any case, I don't think it has anything to do with barrels (botchka)

	02-10-2003 14:38									#17
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I think it could be solved by a yugoslavian. Perhaps La Russo is around?

	02-10-2003 14:41									#18
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nononononono!

It's a Belorussian Ukrainian family name, alright.

	02-10-2003 14:41									#19
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What's the etymology of my last name then?

	02-10-2003 14:44									#20
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I take your last name is not "Ecthelion" (which means "The White City" in middleearthish, I believe).

	02-10-2003 14:47									#21
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the white city is Minas Tirith

your take is right tho

and Azazazel, is Sirotnikov Ukrainian too?

	02-10-2003 14:52									#22
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I believe he has some 'white' blood in him.

Sirota is 'orphan'. why was one of his ancestors given with his name? I don't know.

My family name is way cooler. I am an ancient Israelite priest, or a Khazar priest, at the very least. That's tracing it 1500-2500 years back, baby!

	02-10-2003 14:54									#23
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Kogan?

my name is "bay" in Viking

	02-10-2003 14:54									#24
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I feel so proud for rescuing this thread from the wasteland of page two. Fly my pretty fly!

	02-10-2003 14:58									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel Sirota is 'orphan'. why was one of his ancestors given with his name? I don't know.

Orphanages sometimes named foundlings this way in the past. Might explain it.

	02-10-2003 15:04									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion Kogan? my name is "bay" in Viking

Kohen(priest)-> Kogen -> Kogan
Ancestors@work :



Your ancestors probably lived in a village on a shore of a bay.

	02-10-2003 15:10									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph Orphanages sometimes named foundlings this way in the past. Might explain it.

Yep. That's probably it.

	02-10-2003 15:16									#28
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But he says they came there from Germany.... many Jews in Russia had translated their names from German... I wonder what their original name was... Waisenkind?

	02-10-2003 15:20									#29
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Could be that most of his family did come from Germany but his family name ancestor ( the Father's fathers' father's father's... father. ) didn't.

	02-10-2003 15:26									#30
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oh, alright. am I forgiven?