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SlowwHand is offline SlowwHand
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Like I've said redundantly, time to think about other than done deals like Iraq.

12 minutes ago
By SANG-HUN CHOE, Associated Press Writer

SEOUL, South Korea - North Korea said Thursday it is using plutonium extracted from spent nuclear fuel rods to make atomic weapons, a move that could escalate tensions on the Korean peninsula and raise the stakes in Pyongyang's standoff with the United States.

North Korea has said before that it completed reprocessing its pool of 8,000 spent rods, but Thursday marked the first claim that it is using plutonium yielded from the rods to make nuclear weapons. U.S. and South Korean officials have been skeptical that the rods have been reprocessed.

The claim came amid increasing concern by U.S. intelligence analysts that North Korea might have three, four or even six nuclear weapons instead of the one or two the CIA now estimates.

"The (North) successfully finished the reprocessing of some 8,000 spent fuel rods," a spokesman from the communist nation's Foreign Ministry said in a statement carried by its official news agency, KCNA. The spokesman was unidentified.

Accusing the United States of taking a "hostile policy" toward the North, the statement said North Korea "made a switchover in the use of plutonium churned out by reprocessing spent fuel rods in the direction (of) increasing its nuclear deterrent force."

When reprocessed with chemicals, the 8,000 rods can yield enough plutonium for North Korea to make five or six more nuclear weapons, according to experts.

A senior Seoul official, speaking to South Korean reporters on condition of anonymity, said Thursday that his government was investigating the latest claim. Later, South Korea issued a statement expressing concern about the development.

"This latest North Korean statement could hurt efforts to resolve the nuclear problem peacefully, hurt development of South-North Korean relations and damage the atmosphere of dialogue," Foreign Ministry spokesman Shin Bong-kil said in the statement.

The existence of more than one weapon could mean that the isolated, Stalinist regime might part with one bomb, either in a test or by selling it, although a senior official and the main communist newspaper, Rodong Sinmun, said North Korea has pledged not to export its nuclear capability.

Vice Foreign Minister Choe Su Hon said the North is expanding its "nuclear deterrence" but wouldn't say how many weapons it has, China's official Xinhua News Agency reported Thursday.

"We (have) no intention of transferring any means of that nuclear deterrence to other countries," Choe was quoted as telling reporters in New York, where he was attending the U.N. General Assembly.

North Korea also said Thursday that when necessary, it will reprocess more spent fuel rods to be produced from the small reactor in its main nuclear complex in Yongbyon, 50 miles north of Pyongyang.

North Korea says it restarted its frozen 5-megawatt reactor at Yongbyon after kicking out U.N. nuclear inspectors and quitting the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty in January. Experts say it would take a year of operation before the reactor could produce enough to make a new weapon.

Pyongyang tends to escalate its harsh rhetoric in attempts analysts say are aimed at extracting concessions in crucial negotiations.

Last month, several U.S. government officials told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity that intelligence analysts are debating the extent of North Korea's nuclear capability.

Among the issues is whether the North has refined its nuclear weapon designs so it can use less plutonium to make a working weapon. Some analysts presume the North Koreans have made steady advances and thus are able to use their existing stockpile of weapons-grade plutonium more efficiently, the officials said.

The CIA has not reached that conclusion, however, and is sticking with its unclassified estimate of one or two weapons, the officials said. Other U.S. estimates put the number at three or four; still others are floating five or six weapons as a possibility.




The United States and its allies are trying to persuade North Korea to give up its nuclear programs. Pyongyang says it will do so only if the United States signs a nonaggression treaty, provides economic aid and opens diplomatic ties.

The nuclear dispute flared last October when U.S. officials said North Korea admitted running a secret nuclear weapons program in violation of international agreements.

The United States and its allies suspended oil shipments to the North. North Korea in turn expelled U.N. nuclear inspectors, withdrew from the global nuclear arms-control treaty and said it was reactivating its main nuclear complex, frozen since 1994.

International talks to defuse the crisis have failed, and Seoul officials said North Korea's latest move was a "tactic to boost its negotiating power" when the talks resume.

Japan and China did not comment on the statement Thursday, but it drew expressions of concern from other Asian governments.

"Any steps that bring nearer the prospect of nuclear proliferation on the Korean peninsula would be a source of great concern to Indonesia," Indonesian Foreign Ministry spokesman Marty Natalegawa said.

Philippine Foreign Affairs Undersecretary Franklin Ebdalin said it was unfortunate and would make the nuclear standoff "more difficult to resolve."

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yay. another country to invade!

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It's all Bush's fault.

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Don't give 'em jacksh*t, and pull everybody out. Let this be China's problem for a change.

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It's all Bush's fault.


Of course, bud.
That almost goes without saying.
Spring floods? Bush's fault.
Out of milk? Bastard Bush.

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wait, i thought we were supposed to say it was clinton's fault.

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it is Bush's fault for antagonising North Korea.

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wait, i thought we were supposed to say it was clinton's fault.



Like whatever. That was so last century.

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and how exactely would you solve this mess ?

true again : the leader is a bastard, like sadam was/is; but are you suggesting that your governement has to prove again that a military intervention doesn't solve anything unless you are willing to also solve the underlying problem as well ?

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it is Bush's fault for antagonising North Korea.



You crack me up.

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wait, i thought we were supposed to say it was clinton's fault.
Carter and possibly Kim Dae-jung.
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it is Bush's fault for antagonising North Korea.
That explains why they restarted the program long before the Axis of Evil speech had even been written.

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Poor NK, all they want is some attention.

NK: "Hey, hey we have nuclear weapons and we might launch them at you and you allies..."
US: "That's nice NK, huh, oh not now were to busy in the middle east why don't you go show Japan or China what you made and then put it on the fridge and I will look at it later..."

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Oh...my...GOD! Those f*cking North Korean bastards have Saddam's WMDs!

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quote:
Carter and possibly Kim Dae-jung.



i wasn't serious...

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That explains why they restarted the program long before the Axis of Evil speech had even been written.


you know as well as I that things escalated because of America's current "no deal" policies.


Jesus people, all NK wants is a non-aggression treaty. Give it to them, and they'll give up their WoMDs. Problem solved, everyone happy. Why is Bush&Co being so stubborn about it? The sollution is right there in front of us.

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Oh...my...GOD! Those f*cking North Korean bastards have Saddam's WMDs!


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Jesus people, all NK wants is a non-aggression treaty. Give it to them, and they'll give up their WoMDs. Problem solved, everyone happy.
They've already shown what they think of the agreements they make. What makes you think that this one would be any different from the others?

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They've already shown what they think of the agreements they make. What makes you think that this one would be any different from the others?


if they break the terms of the non-aggression treaty they asked for, then they pretty much declare war against the US. they aren't that stupid

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and do you have a better sollution?

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if they break the terms of the non-aggression treaty they asked for, then they pretty much declare war against the US. they aren't that stupid
I wouldn't call it stupid. You and others probably be pushing for yet another agreement with them that again lacked any sort of oversight.

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and you have a better idea?


Aggravating North Korea only makes them more pissed off and determent. Threathening them clearly isn't working, and providing oposite results.

and attacking them? The American military is over-stretched as it is, you can't wage a war against yet another country. And North Korea is better armed than Iraq or Afghanistan was. Also, with an election coming up next year, Bush isn't going to risk it.

so now you. what do you propose is done?

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*birds chirp*

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give me a gun, drop me off somewhere near p'yongyang.

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are you looking forward to getting killed?

I'm sure there are easier ways to end your own life.

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no, i've seen enough bond movies to make me a lethal assassin.

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This is yet another example of how Bush's war-mongering threatens to spiral the entire world into madness. It's time the people of this nation take the hint, and throw him out.

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I thought Bond got captured by the North Koreans

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Jesus people, all NK wants is a non-aggression treaty.


No. They have demanded more than that.

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yeah, but bond is mr whitey. i could blend in.

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I think Q^3 has it all planned out and we should give him a shot, I mean what's the worst that could happen

 
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