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Mink eat each other after animal rights break-in

Associated Press
Published 10/03/2003

SULTAN, Wash. -- An animal rights group's plan to free 10,000 mink from a farm turned deadly after many of the emancipated mustelids became cannibals while others went on a carnivorous feeding frenzy.

About 9,000 of the freed mink have been returned to Roesler Brothers Fur Farm since the Aug. 25 break-in, but keeping them alive has been a challenge.

Normally, only siblings are caged together, but workers cannot readily determine which of the recaptured mink are related, said Kate Roesler.

``The mink are fine when they're litter mates together, but when they're not they're quite vicious and they're cannibals,'' Roesler said. ``They do eat each other, and that's what we're battling.''

Days after the break-in, starving mink attacked a menagerie of exotic birds, a flock of chickens and even a Labrador retriever.

A few mink have been seen recently eating fish along local rivers and one turned up last week at a fruit stand on the edge of this town about 40 miles northeast of Seattle.

About 1,000 are still missing.

The Animal Liberation Front claimed responsibility and the FBI is investigating. No arrests have been reported.

Fur Commission USA is offering a $100,000 reward for information leading to the arrests and convictions of those responsible.

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give them liberty and give them death, i see.

good to know these radical animal rights activists truly care about their animals.

although i think it would have improved their standing had they noticed the typo in that manifesto of theirs.

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Mink are closely related to ferrets, aren't they?



I know who's behind this!

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Yeah! They attack everyone except their siblings...

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They will most likely starve in the wild.

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Were the minks being properly cared for and sufficiently fed on this fur farm?

The article said they were starving . . .??

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They will most likely starve in the wild.


Apparently they where starving in captivity anyways.

Which is not to downplay the fact they are bred to be killed.

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This is why I hate people who own Ferretts (at least if they live in Cali. where it is illegal), and is why I comment to the Manager at PetCo everytime I see them selling Ferret parafffffinelia...

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The article said they were starving . . .??

That was a few days after they were released. They didn't know how to find food outside of the farm, so they starved.

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They didn't know how to find food outside of the farm


Sounds like they where doing a good job, considering. They even managed to take down a dog.

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Sounds like they where doing a good job, considering. They even managed to take down a dog.


yeah, which is it? Defencless in the wild or rabid pet killers?

Either way, in that mink farm they were going to be slaughtered, at least they've had a taste of freedom

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Minks are evil nasty creatures.

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Minks are evil nasty creatures.


...who deserved to be locked up and skinned?

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Which is what makes MrFun's question so funny.

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at least they've had a taste of freedom

Yeah, and a taste of mink, a pet dog, and some exotic birds.

Why aren't the animal activists fighting for them, did they not deserve to live?

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Yeah, and a taste of mink, a pet dog, and some exotic birds.

Why aren't the animal activists fighting for them, did they not deserve to live?


That's how nature works, things eat each other. The activists didn't do this for the well being of each individual mink, they did it in an effort to stop the farming.

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The activists didn't do this for the well being of each individual mink, they did it in an effort to stop the farming.

They hate farming!?!?

Crap, where am going to get my corn and potatoes?!?!

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Animal activists are not environmentalists. In fact, they are often at odds, especially during animal culls.

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They hate farming!?!?

Crap, where am going to get my corn and potatoes?!?!


Did they attack a corn farm?

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Animal activists are not environmentalists. In fact, they are often at odds, especially during animal culls.


They're different philosophies, but I don't think they're different agendas... except maybe for the "save the cuties" bunch.

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Did they attack a corn farm?


The minks were in Washington, not Iowa.

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Washington!!!! Wheat, Barely, Hops! My Beer!!!!

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Japher has the right concern. To heck with the minks, save the beer!

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Osweld, what did you mean by farming?

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Which is what makes MrFun's question so funny.


What was funny about my question?

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The minks were in Washington, not Iowa.


Are you trying to say that Iowa is even a boring a state for minks?

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Osweld, what did you mean by farming?


what could I possibly of meant... mink farming? Nah, I think GhengisFarb had it right - they attacked the mink farm in protest of growing corn and potatos.

EDIT: Actually, aside from mink farming, this was obviously an industrial farm aswell. 10 000 minks?

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Apparently they were so bored they started eating each other..........

And the commet was made that the activists hate farming. Not just Mink Farming, ALL FARMING!

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Osweld, what did you mean by farming?



Alright, since this apparently wasn't meant as a smart-ass question (to which I give smart-ass replies ) I'll answer it.


Here is an article about fur factory farms. Yes, it's from PETA - if you don't like that, tough ****.

I've never heard much about fur farming, so I learned some things from that article myself. Like how, apparently, the cannibalistic behaviour is a result of their confinement, which is not surprising - the hellish conditions of a factory farm is enough to twist any living thing.

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To cut costs, fur farmers pack animals into small cages, preventing them from taking more than a few steps back and forth. This crowding and confinement is especially distressing to minks-solitary animals who may occupy as much as 2,500 acres of wetland habitat in the wild.5 The anguish of life in a cage leads minks to self-mutilate-biting at their skin, tails, and feet-and franticly pace and circle endlessly. Zoologists at Oxford University who studied captive minks found that despite generations of being bred for fur, minks have not been domesticated and suffer greatly in captivity, especially if they are not given the opportunity to swim.6 Foxes, raccoons, and other animals suffer equally and have been found to cannibalize each other as a reaction to their crowded confinement. Animals on fur factory farms are fed meat byproducts considered unfit for human consumption. Water is provided by a nipple system which often freezes in the winter or may fail because of human error.



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Animals on fur factory farms are more susceptible to diseases than their freeroaming counterparts. Contagious diseases such as pneumonia are passed from cage to cage rapidly, as are fleas, ticks, lice, and mites. And disease-carrying flies thrive in the piles of rotting wastes that collect under the cages for months. Video footage and photos taken by undercover investigators show animals suffering from severe infections and injuries, untreated and left to die slowly.


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No federal humane slaughter law protects animals on fur factory farms, and killing methods are gruesome. Because fur farmers care only about preserving the quality of the fur, they use slaughter methods that keep the pelts intact but which can result in extreme suffering for the animals. Small animals may be crammed into boxes and poisoned with hot, unfiltered engine exhaust from a truck. Engine exhaust is not always lethal, and some animals wake up while being skinned. Larger animals have clamps or a rod applied to their mouths while rods are inserted into their anuses, and they are painfully electrocuted. Other animals are poisoned with strychnine, which suffocates them by paralyzing their muscles in painful rigid cramps. Gassing, decompression chambers, and neck-snapping are other common fur-farm slaughter methods.



But the most disturbing thing to me is that these animals are bred by humans with this life already decided for them and planned out. Claiming that these activists are hurting the animals by setting them free is ridiculous - there is abolutely nothing you can do to make the life of a factory farmed animal worse, it's been living in a hell since it was born. And really, there is no way you could ever help such an animal.

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The farm shouldn't have been allowed in the first place. Full stop

 
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