01-05-2004 06:38									#361
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quote: Originally posted by JamesJKirk Also, welcome aboard Kobra, I look forward to good relations between our great nations.

Thanks! I'm Eivind IV from CivFan and CDG if you didn't know

quote: Originally posted by germanos This is to prevent double movement of a unit in one turn. For example: I give a unit( let's say a transport with Mfg.Goods ) to France (after I have sailed 11 squares), France moves the unit also 11 squares, and gives it back to me. 22 squares moved in one turn... Obviously, we should agree that when receiving a unit via online trading, the receiving player should be required to let the unit rest as well.

Thant's cheating imho anyways, not a bug. It's pretty obvious.

	01-05-2004 07:10									#362
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Milan, Government Fall
After a months-long siege of Milan, heroic German troops finally attacked and took the city, avenging the absurd declaration of war by Italy. Though the city was relatively lightly defended, its natural defenses helped make the attack on the city costly. Nevertheless, with the assistance of the SMS Keiner, forces were able to march into and hold the city. Following this, the Italian government agreed to a peace treaty and paid 350 gold in reparations.
Once the city was firmly under control, the Foreign Ministry issued a declaration with France stating that Rome and Messina are to be considered free cities under the protection of France and Germany, and no other power should attempt to tamper with their sovereignty.
As Milan was the former territory of the Austrian Empire, former Emperor Franz Joseph used the excuse that since it was his former domain, and since Austrian troops primarily carried out the assault on the city, he should be Kaiser of the entire Reich. This caused a scandal in Berlin, where the Reichstag quickly passed a resolution announcing the end of the monarchy and parliamentary supremacy. Speaker Kautsky stated, "The controversy with the Hapsburgs shows that absolute monarchy is a relic of a world long gone. Therefore a government of the people is the only that can rule Germany correctly, and without the constant royal intrigue and backstabbing." Kaiser Wilhelm has agreed to voluntarily abdicate once a new Constitution is agreed on. However, in the turmoil, one of Franz Joseph's nephews has been assassinated while on a goodwill tour of Milan, and many German cities are expected to starve in the coming months, as arch-monarchists have burned many food stores. Both the interim government and the citizenry hope it's not long before law and order regain the upper hand in Germany.

World Report
Defense and Foreign Ministry officials reported spotting Russian warships off the coast of Sweden. The government states it is not alarmed, but proposes to Russia that from now on the Baltic Sea be demilitarized.

Germany has asked that Britain sign a formal (ie. in game) alliance with Germany so that its trade goods do not clog up Germany railways.

Germany has agreed to share the knowledge of Republican government with its Japanese friends.

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	01-05-2004 07:12									#363
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Here's the civdip file for Japan:

And don't worry Eivind, I know who you are

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	01-05-2004 13:11									#364
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Japan is delighted by the prospect of founding a Republic, and we thank Germany, France and the United States for their efforts to make this possible. Russia's efforts to spread the knowledge have also contributed a lot, and it will not be forgotten y the Japanese.

News of cooperation between Germany and France in the Mediterranian basin is applauded by the Japanese Foreign Ministry.

	01-05-2004 14:45									#365
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I downloaded the file, played my turn and then remind that it was America's turn.

Sorry for that

	01-05-2004 16:45									#366
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Hey a page or two back someone brought up building trade units in one city and re-homing them to another city is cheating/ exploitive or whatever you want to call it, against the "rules"..

Im not following why, but can someone explain?

And then can we confirm whether its legal or not?

Because I almost started doing that with Moscow LAST turn. But I started another unit instead.

And I dont want to do something, unknowingly, that will look like Im cheating or using an exploit or violating house rules.

And maybe we need to gather and post the house rules or the assumed house rules, all agree, and then move forward.

Especially with two brand new players.

What do you guys think?

	01-05-2004 17:49									#367
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I don't like Rehoming too much, but I don't consider it cheating unles there is a house rule against it.

And if someone dare to call you, Steve, a cheater I'll fall into him/her and he'll regret having say so

	01-05-2004 18:28									#368
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quote: Originally posted by yaroslav I don't like Rehoming too much, but I don't consider it cheating unles there is a house rule against it. And if someone dare to call you, Steve, a cheater I'll fall into him/her and he'll regret having say so

Thanks my friend

I just want to decide one way or the other, I didn't see any problem with it, but can certainly live without it, SOOOO

Whatever we do is fine, I just want to make sure

I just wanna play the game

	01-05-2004 19:11									#369
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Rehoming TRADE-units is an exploit, and should be banned IMO.

Reason: unlike all other units, trade units cannot be rehomed by pressing 'h'. Try it, and you will get a popup saying you can't do that.
there is a way around it though, by selecting the trade-unit in the city, and then choose the 'set homecity' from the popup-menu.

Since 'normal' procedure will NOT allow you to rehome, I consider using the exploit as a 'nono' .

All other units can be rehomed without any problem.

	01-05-2004 19:33									#370
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I agree with Germanos, and I'm pro-banning this behaviour.

	01-05-2004 19:36									#371
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OK guys fair enough by me.

Unless we get a big arguement from the others, Ill go along with banning rehoming.

	01-05-2004 23:07									#372
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That's fine by me, just how exactly is it a cheat? Is it because it frees up commodities from the original city?

EDIT: By the way guys, there's an opening here for a player in the PBEM for the new scenario by curtsibling, Dictator: Kaiser, if anyone's interested

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	02-05-2004 23:31									#373
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President Grant has strangly disappeared without so much as a notice. Those close to the president have no clue what so ever of the whereabouts of the President. This is the first time in the short independent US history that a statesman has vanished in such a strange manner. This is the conversation subject all over the counrty. Everyone is out looking for the president. The people expect the worst, but hope for his return. There is no reson to suspect something criminal around his disapearance.

In the mean time, the popular vice-president Eivind has been installed as working president during the investigation.

All world leaders mustn't worry, the working president Eivind will continue the foreign and domestic policy the missing president had.

A US backed revolution in Panama quickly sworn its legiance to the popular vice-president in their big brother country in the northern part of America. As a gesture of gratitude they started to build what is to be known as the Panama Canal. In a mere month the canal was ready.

Trade sent to Europe and towards Australia.

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	03-05-2004 18:42									#374
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So the president "mysteriously" disappeared with no trace, and the VP takes over.

Does the VP happen to have any mofia connections?

	03-05-2004 21:04									#375
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	04-05-2004 01:26									#376
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Victory!!!!

The British Empire settles its foot at the Middle East as the city of Kuwait fall to the Empire Armies. Non-secret project of Britain is to secure a route from their British isles to the most valious colony of the world: India.

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	04-05-2004 01:34									#377
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A offer to germany

(I tried to do in-game but your "AI" didn't let me)

I've dared to add another offer to the one we discuss If you dislike it, let me know and we'll sign the other one

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	04-05-2004 01:50									#378
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The Glorius Armies of the Czar have liberated the peoples of Bucharest. It is our duty as the keepers of that one true religion: "Orthodoxy" to offer protection to our Orthodox Brethren in the balkans.

And before any of you say :"Cheat," it took me I beleive 7 cannons gone, 1 heavily damaged and three cossacks to take Bucharest.

I ask the French to NOT block passage to the Straits of Gibraltor in the future. The sea should be free for the use of all mankind

	04-05-2004 01:52									#379
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File and I almost forgot

No pop up messages at turn start this time

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	04-05-2004 05:40									#380
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Don't forget to use the civdip file, germanos,


And empty our your pm box, yaroslav!

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	04-05-2004 20:51									#381
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 I ask the French to NOT block passage to the Straits of Gibraltor in the future. The sea should be free for the use of all mankind

Apologies to our british (and Russian)friends, the way will be cleared and the matter will be given more consideration in the future. Sadly the helmsman was busy talking to what he assured the other crew members was a mermaid* and did not stear north with the steamer.


* crew members report only seeing a herring which apparently flopped up on deck and made quite a show floundering around until finally dropping back into the sea. The helmsman was so smitten he tried to follow, and would have succeded had the captain not punched him in the face for stearing off course.

We try to run a tight ship

	04-05-2004 21:16									#382
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Thanks Zedd

	05-05-2004 00:29									#383
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After takeing a peek at the russian save I noticed that some french cannons were taking positions I did not specify. Further inspection shows that indeed those units were fortified in the last save. Also the "End of turn" light is flashing. So what did I do wrong?

BTW I hope those cannons didn't make any agressive moves against our nieghbors !? I recall a british frieght near paris where one cannon sits now, but the Forieghn minister sees no problems.

	05-05-2004 00:32									#384
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quote: Originally posted by JamesJKirk Don't forget to use the civdip file, germanos, And empty our your pm box, yaroslav!

Sorry, I don't get messages when it get full.

	05-05-2004 00:37									#385
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quote: Originally posted by Zedd After takeing a peek at the russian save I noticed that some french cannons were taking positions I did not specify. Further inspection shows that indeed those units were fortified in the last save. Also the "End of turn" light is flashing. So what did I do wrong? BTW I hope those cannons didn't make any agressive moves against our nieghbors !? I recall a british frieght near paris where one cannon sits now, but the Forieghn minister sees no problems.

OK before the end of your turn, you need to have one unit, unfortified, that is still capable of movement.

Usually what I do is way back in my empire somewhere, I leave on Infantry unfortified, always.

So at the end of my turn, the infantry is flashing and capable of movement.

At that time you HAVE TO HIT CTRL_N

That cancells all movement for all units, so the AI will not move your units for you.

After the ctrl-n, the end of turn button will be flashing and you can save as normal.

Try that this turn and see if it works.

	05-05-2004 01:44									#386
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Will do, but I thought if the End of Turn thingy was flashing it wasn't necessary.

Thanks for the advice, I allready have a unit in mind.

	05-05-2004 01:54									#387
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quote: Originally posted by Zedd Will do, but I thought if the End of Turn thingy was flashing it wasn't necessary.

No No No, if you dont do this the AI takes all your units that didn't move including fortified ones and moves them all over!!!!!!

quote: Originally posted by Zedd Thanks for the advice, I allready have a unit in mind.

Your welsome, it took me a while to get the hang of it when I first started out

	05-05-2004 16:19									#388
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Revolutionary changes announced

Following a popular revolt that started in Sendai last month, the Tenno has agreed to changes in the constitution. When popular satisfaction dropped, and the traditional 'We Love the Tenno' celebrations that had brought wealth to all Japanese people throughout the Kingdom since the dawn of times were abandend, it became clear that sustained prosperity needed economic reforms. These reformes needed increased political participation by the japanese, and a new constitution that reduced the absolute power held by the Tenno.

Japan is now a constitutional Monarchy, where the Tenno remains the head of State, but where the population will elect the executive and legislative Power.
Elections will be held later this month, and a new Government will be installed shortly thereafter.


Japanese ships are sailing through the Straits of Malakka, congestion feared. Captain reports the strait remains open, as he is currently anchored in theAtjeh bend.

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	06-05-2004 01:43									#389
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quote: Originally posted by yaroslav Sorry, I don't get messages when it get full.

I got two messages after posting here.... Sorry for doubting about old good 'poly

	06-05-2004 18:54									#390
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French troops capture another tribal city.
First Franco-German trade route established, Minerals Delivered to Frankfort.

Foreign minister reports an enthusiastic relationship with our German allies, and a deteriorating relationship with Manuel Rossa of the Independents. They have become very "uncooperative".

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