11-10-2003 05:46									#151
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion Laurentius, is that Israeli Defence Force? And you a Finn? This forum never ceases to amaze me

Didnt see it coming did you? the notorious Israel-basher wanting to join the IDF. Well as they say know thy enemy....
No really I want to do something with my life instead of rotting in front of this tft and serving my time as a sivilserviceman

	11-10-2003 05:47									#152
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laurentius, ah ok Well I have to admit I was wondering what's up now and why?!

	11-10-2003 06:01									#153
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion "1453, what kind of year was it?"

For a Muslim, that year would be in the future. They start counting from Muhammed.

	12-10-2003 04:05									#154
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Nope, not part of Europe.

Greenland, the ABC and some other Carribean islands should join first.

	12-10-2003 04:36									#155
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Hey, Is French Guyana part of EU? I think it is..

	12-10-2003 04:47									#156
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AFAIK, none of the off the European continent protectorates/islands/etc are in the EU.

So long...

	14-10-2003 12:50									#157
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They are part of the EU, they even use the Euro.

	15-10-2003 06:09									#158
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Now why do I keep hearing problems with the integration of Muslims in Europe?

1900: Them Irish are ruining New York City. They'll never be normal like us. They dress weird, talk weird, smell weird, and swear weird.

	15-10-2003 14:02									#159
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quote: Originally posted by axi Cromwell had to chop the King's head off once and lead a bloody civil war, so that the UK would eventually become one parliamentary monarchy. Still the UK is fathoms less democratic than, say, France which got rid of monarchy alltogether.

I couldn't let this pass, how is France more democratic than the UK. You've just made that up.

	15-10-2003 14:38									#160
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The UK still has a Queen. France does not.
The UK still has nobility and a house of Lords. France does not.
The UK has a majoritarian election system with single-seat constituencies. France has a proportional election system.
The UK has all political power effectively concentrated in 2 parties. France has a multiparty system where coalitions are possible.

	15-10-2003 14:44									#161
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The UK has a nobility of which 92 members can vote in a revising chamber of parliament. That vote is to be removed.
Proportional rep is not initself more democratic.
Power in 2 parties does not make it less democtaic if those parties are themselves broadly based which they are.
The Queen has no power. The prime minister assumes them, although this does not make him any more powerful than the French President.

My point is that France is broadly as deomcratic as the UK although with a different system.

	16-10-2003 07:37									#162
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Also, there is a big difference between form and substance.

	16-10-2003 23:45									#163
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True about nobility, that is undemocratic. The whole idea of nobility is obsolete.

Anyway, about Turkey, I remember quite some time ago seeing a cover of The Economist with a title "Will Turkey become EU member?" (or along those lines). If any of you read the magazine or have a subscription can you tell us what they concluded? Economist is quite level headed and I am curious about their opinion.