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Thanks Che, I want everyone here to understand that while I do believe that average abilities vary between different races, I regard each person as an individual, and individuals don't necessarily comform to the average for their race.
In short, my beliefs are not based on hate. Please don't lump me in with the KKK crowd.
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Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Cal, I think you have to acknowledge that, whatever dressing of objectivity you apply to it, that's a dubious philosophy. It's caused you problems before and will continue to do so. |
The thing is, I think it's intellectually dishonest for anyone to act as if the question of racial differences has been scientifically settled once and for all. There are respected scientists on both sides of the issue. It is possible to side with the racial explanation without coming from an attitude of hate or an egotistical feeling of superiority. While I understand why most people make the assumption that someone who believes in racial differences must be hateful, I still think it's wrong. Allowing emotion to eclipse any attempt at discussion gets us nowhere.
You may be suprised to hear that I consider all races equally important when it comes to what really matters. By this I mean that all races are equally loved by God, and all have a purpose in his plan. Whether you believe in God or not, you and I can both agree that all races have value. I think we can also agree that all humans are, quite literally, brothers and sisters. Accepting this fact would do a lot more to improve race relations than pretending that group differences do not exist IMO.
What do you think?
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DRoseDARs
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"My god, it's full of peas..."
Jul 2002
time: 21:31
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I'm not an orinthologist (whatever the proper spelling for: bird researcher), but I know that there are species of birds that, within their own breed, have differing abilities from other breeds, even though they are the same species.
Why are Humans any different?
I agree with Cal (though this is the first time I've seen this on-going discussion of "race" and so forth) that "race" is a real thing within the Human condition. Only truly ignorant people would use that distinction to determine arbitrarily whose racially superior to whom. The real differences are likely to be very sutble, but to dismiss them out of hand is just dumb.
To me, having a multitude of different races make Humans Human. We get so many different cultures, religions, languages, traditions, styles, art forms...
...perspectives on the Human condition. It makes us beautiful. To disregard what "race" gives us diminishes us all.
[NOTE] You have to play with how one defines "species" and "race" without using the "racist" modifier card to see what I'm getting at. [/NOTE]
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Originally posted by PLATO
Very Big of you Che. |
I thought so too, especially as I didn't even ask for an apology - let alone a public one. This sets a good example for all.
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Caligastia
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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Presumably I should put you in the below average category for your "race" for believing nonsense like that. |
This kind of attack is precisely what Che apologised for. Time to grow up Horsie.
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