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Sloth
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A link and a some "random" ideas http://members.aol.com/TeacherNet/AncientRome.html
1)In consideration of the importance of salt for the conservation of food what about a salina improvement (harbour)?
2) This is maybe already obvious: Alexandria and Syracusae as SSC. I deem Archimede's city as particularly important: this gives you the right incentive to pick up an early fight with Carthago for Sicily.
3) What about an "improved road" (railroad)?
Form an historical point of view Romans as "roadbuilders" is a fine concept. I'm not sure, though, about the effect of this on gameplay. Maybe this could be a late discovery available only to Romans.
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What are the wonders going to be? IMHO the expanded docks at Ostia should be a wonder (Pyramids?).
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BeBro
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of the Krauts
Mar 2000
time: 06:13
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Hi guys, nice comments.
Sloth, your homework helped me a lot. This site has some very useful links. One of them guided me to a website with great miniatures of ancient warriors, including Romans, Greeks and Persians! Thank you!!! 
Oh, I forgot: what means SSC (it´s not my best day today...  )?
To the discussion about improvements/wonders:
The scn will include the offshore platform (as shipyard), a trade port and a naval base as different improvements. For the Railroads: V1.0 hadn´t RRs...but the units had higher movement rates as in the standard civ (Iinfantery 2, heavy cavalry 3, camels/light cavalry 4.
Some wonders are the Pyramides (perhaps on another slot), Lighthouse, Tower of Babel, Colossus, Acropolis, Aristoteles´school, Dionysius´ Theatre, Pantheon, Titus Arch, Colosseum, Hadrian´s Wall, Marius´ army reform (right translated?), AlKhazneh (Petra), Hanno´s voyage, Carthage´s Arsenal and some others (I´ll find some more Roman wonders, perhaps I´ll include this Ostia thing, Michael ). Some will be preplaced from the start, some are not as important in a scn, but good for the atmosphere (and for the score). I still have some free slot for wonders...I also have a (secret ) idea to use some improvements that seem useless for an ancient scn (e.g. as the SAM, or SDI).
And Stefan, this "Moloch" thing about Carthage was really interesting. This sunday they´ll have something about Cleo and Alexandria...
[This message has been edited by BeBro (edited July 18, 2000).]
[This message has been edited by BeBro (edited July 18, 2000).]
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Well if you want info on Ostia, just ask (because someone else is bound to know more about it than me).
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VietMinh
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Ho Chi Minh City, Ho Chi Minh District,Viet Nam
Jul 2000
time: 05:13
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I have a question; if the scenario starts in 386 or even 500 like in v1.0 why isn't there a unique spartan infantry like the macedonian one? Because Sparta was still a very strong city-state even the dominant one because the macedonians haven't conquered them yet. I would suggest that the spartan infantry should appear through events because Sparta at most could only field 9000 hoplites.
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War bares a sword's steel.
Autumn leaves reflect color,
A samurai's Blood.
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BeBro
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of the Krauts
Mar 2000
time: 06:13
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VietMinh, this is a good idea, in fact I´ll create different units per events randomly.
But 386 is also close to the Hegemony of Theben (English name?), the "golden" years of the Spartan phalanx are a bit earlier. But you are right, Sparta is still powerful in 386BC. At the moment I cannot say if I include such an event, because the events.txt is currently to 0% ( )finished, and the most events will be for the Romans.
BTW, the ancient scn from SCDARS (he is on holiday this time) has exactly such a Spartan phalanx event you´ve suggested...
Shadowstrike, I also thought about this problem. I think I´ll include Alexandria (the same goes for some other cities, for instance Carthago Nova). I know, this is not absolutely accurat, but these cities are, in my eyes, to important to leave them for the AI (and watch the AI founding Carthago Nova in North Africa  )...
For Alex the Great: I don´t know (same reason as above), and I also think it would be nice to see Macedonians invading Persia in 334BC, but it would also cost a lot of events space to create an army that is able to conquer the whole Persian empire, and if the Romans are the recommended civ (and they will be it) these events should be better used.
But, as in V1.0, the Macedonians will be at war with Persia, and they will be able to research much better units as the Persians...
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BeBro
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of the Krauts
Mar 2000
time: 06:13
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Stefan, I agree if you say that Alexandria isn´t that bad from the beginning . The same goes for other cities. A player that plays with the Romans would not see this cities in the beginning , because he have to conquer Italy first, so I think I can include Alexandria, Carthago Nova, Antiochia and some others. Otherwise it would to bad if your Legions advance in the game and these cities wouldn´t exist (or on a completely wrong location).
Shadowstrike, currently I think about the Macedonians as the second recommended civ to play. The startyear is also good for them, because they were still weak at this time so that they offer a similar challenge as the Romans. While the Romans try to conquer Italy a Human player could lead the Macedonians into the hegemony over Hellas...
For the negotiations: in V1.0 were negotiations possible, but I think I´ll forbid them completely for V2.0. Yes, I know that this is not accurate, but it has in my eyes more advantages, especially for the research of civ-specific units (and there will be a lot of them ).
I also like the fact that you have to conquer all cities (no Diplos, no bribing - like in Cross&Crescent). This may also seem inaccurate, but even more inaccurate is it when the Romans bribe a lot of cities, instead of capturing them.
[This message has been edited by BeBro (edited July 21, 2000).]
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VietMinh
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Ho Chi Minh City, Ho Chi Minh District,Viet Nam
Jul 2000
time: 05:13
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True the spartan golden years were a bit ealier but no one can denie that they were still unique and much more effective than the average greek hoplite. example:The Carthagians hired SPARTANS soldiers to defeat the Romans on african soil. So even to the first punic war The Spartan hoplites were strong.
2 questions;
1.Where can I download the Ancient Scenario that SCDARS? ( I really love Ancient scenarios )
2.Will v2.0 be objective based or empire building like v1.0?
Stefan; When will Darius 2.2 be out?
And why in Artaxerxes there is no unique Spartan? I find this...disturbing because the scenario is suppose to be foccused on Sparta. But the scenario was very good.
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War bares a sword's steel.
Autumn leaves reflect color,
A samurai's blood.
Tai-Sho Minobu Tesuhara
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